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  1. 240. Abdelmalek says:

    In Iranian Islamic land we are amaze of existance of
    the Swastika because we discover what was
    history of Europe by our president. But What is
    sure is that All people must be aware of danger
    of Sionism in World , and first for the Land of Frenchs.
    Yes, France is touched by the first organization sionist of World : BENAI BRITH. And Nothing as Swastika could avoid this danger of World !!

  2. 239. Scott says:

    Personally I think people should be free to use whatever symbol they want for whatever reason they want. If Buddhists or Hindus want to use swastikas then go ahead. If Nazis want to then they should go ahead and use them too. Its none of the states buisness people dont need tyrant leaders telling them what symbols they are allowed to use. Nazi’s should have free speech too.

  3. 238. James says:

    Just know about Swastika which is considered
    like a great symbol of Dravidian negros’ root of
    those people before arriving of Aryans tributes
    in India. What is amazing more is the meaning of it
    unknown, as a Fusion Syndrom by any star. The
    Star coold be “Tchira” from the squad of “Orio”.
    But much be better : there are all Frogs ! Even we adore the Swastika.

  4. 237. Premasagar says:

    @Bernt – Someone using the (presumably false) name of ‘Adolf Hitler’ posted several long comments that came in rapid succession and with content that wasn’t felt to be in the spirit of the site guidelines, so the comments were removed.

    It is more an issue of context, rather than censorship. The website has clearly stated goals and all who identify with them are welcome to contribute.

  5. 236. Bernt says:

    Why is someboddy sensuring this page.
    Adolf had som exelent comments about this Holocash industry and the lies behind it.

  6. 235. Dada says:

    Hi Mick – I appreciated to read your very balanced comment, in which you argue that the swastika is still too sensitive a symbol to be used in the West. You suggest that it will take for the generation of grandchildren of the Holocaust victims to expire before we can bring it back again. Why, only the grandchildren? Why not great-grandchildren, or 4 or 5 more generations? Surely, they too may learn the history of their ancestors, and how the swastika was misused. So it all seems a bit arbitrary.

    I am writing to you from India where I am visiting for a short time. The place is plastered with swastikas – they’re everywhere – literally everywhere. I have not found a place where the swastika isn’t!

    I recently found a large building containing hundred’s of thousands of red bricks – with a swastika moulded onto every single one of them! India has a staggering 1.1 billion people – with endless waves of migrants moving to every part of the world. So, yes, they already are demanding the right to use their most ancient and revered spiritual symbol.

    As more and more Westerners are drawn to the path of Yoga, meditation, vegetarianism etc, then the demand for the liberation of the swastika has increasingly come from Westerners themselves.
    Another point is there: one of the most widely represented national groups travelling in the Indian subcontinent are, in fact, Israelis. Endless waves of young Israelis straight out of the army. I wonder what their feeling is moving around India being daily exposed to literally millions of swastikas!
    I don’t see them running madly, frothing at the mouth, diving to take cover from the onslaught of the swastikas! On the contrary, they seem quite at peace.

    Maybe – just maybe – they have been able to adjust, and see it for what it means here: a beautiful, powerful, spiritual symbol!

    dada

  7. 234. Mick says:

    Its simply to early for the swastika to be reclaimed in the west. No matter how many reasonable arguments can be brought up in favour of it.

    Only after the grandchildren of those who experienced World War Two are long dead, and after the mid-east has finally calmed down. Only then can the symbol be reclaimed in west. Until then it will remain to sensitive.

    However, I could see some squabbling over it with religious asians living in the west. I mean, various religious troubles really seem to have flared up this decade. And I wouldn’t be surprised if the asians eventually got in on on all the debates at one point. In kind of a ‘now that we’re talking about islam… what about our swastikas!’ sort of way. And y’know how the media gets.

  8. 233. Jonathan says:

    Don’t ban the Swastika. Symbols can have multiple meanings. Personally, one should become educated with such a symbol before judgement can be passed.

  9. 232. Premasagar says:

    To me, the very act of invoking identity with a group of others – in stark isolation to all else – is an intrinsic act of oppression of everyone involved.

  10. 231. Bernt says:

    Mark Lammas

    Whom is to determine whom is hater or whom has a religion that despises others razes and call them Goys..
    The Swastika is a symbol of freedom for the Germanic people against the people that call them Goys.
    May it rise again and be symbol of unity for the Germanic people against the oppressors..

  11. 230. Mark Lammas says:

    The symbol on the printed page
    Is purely, only, art;
    The Good the symbol represents
    Is God, within the heart,
    So, when the haters steal this thing
    They cannot hold it long,
    For, somehow, deep inside their hearts
    They know the act is wrong.

  12. 229. Bernt says:

    to james
    Germany is facing a huge problem for the future, they are being invaded by Jews from eastern Europe.
    History will eventually repeat it self!!!
    The swastika is a symbol of freedom for the German people and the Jews are trying to make it illegal in Europe.

  13. 228. james says:

    i think that the german way is the true way of life im german a have the german blood strong in my vanes my great uncle was an ss officer and my grampa got 3 purple hearts 2 iron crosses and 2 hand to hand combat metals in the german army and alot more that i do not know of but i say go germans.

  14. 227. Josie Muir says:

    That was really amazing! And thanks.

  15. 226. Hebrew-Aryan Monarch says:

    I always hear that the swastika was stolen by Hitler and that it originated in the Hindu religion instead.
    But that too is but a misnomer because the swastika has no special connection to India because whatever force spread this symbol seemed to do it all over the globe for every race, nation of true civilization, even the most primitive nomad societies carried this symbol.
    They ALL also had the so-called “Star of David” : Native Americans, Africans, Indians, all Asian peoples, as well as Celtic peoples and Middle Eastern peoples; all these peoples had little or no contact with each other, they certainly did not regard India as their holy land because most of these people did not even know of India’s existence (except for a few fortunately individuals of these area’s), yet all the continental peoples of Africa, the Middle East, Europe, The America’s (both South and North) all peoples (unlike Asians) who had no direct contact with India before or after the great Buddha.
    Yet all these non-Asian, non-Indian, peoples from Europe to the Americas have the swastika among they’re other “holy symbols”, the other most prominent of which is the Hexagram (which is present in both Native American, Middle Eastern, and Celtic cultures, as well as those cultures in which the swastika is the highest symbol namely Asian cultures (Tibetan, Chinese, Japanese, and Asian societies with direct contact to Aryan and Indian cultures) .
    “The Gods” so they all claimed “gave them these symbols” just as they gave them civilization and every aspect of the knowledge of the stars, magical arts, mathematics, and prophecy.
    The notion that Gods once ruled the earth is not a new one and certainly need not take on White Supremest aspects because many “white peoples” such as Germanic’s, Nordics, Slavonic’s, and other European peoples had the same myths; these peoples were not claiming to be the the Gods, although some of them, like many other ancient civilizations both Aryan and Non-Aryan claimed decendency from the Gods, but they all mentioned “The Gods”; and where the Gods existed, (whether in the imaginations of ancient peoples or real creatures) the swastika and the Hexagram (Star of David) appeared-existed.
    It seems as though a great force was spreading these two symbols all over the planet to every continent, to peoples so far from each other they could not have possibly gotten it all from a isolationist culture like India.
    These two symbols spread with seeming swiftness and precision, as the idea of the pyramid.
    The history of these symbols remain a mystery but for anyone to claim “they came from my country” would be arrogant and possibly even a liar because no one knows which “nation” civilization” or community spread these symbols and the knowledge they represent.
    So the Swastika is no more unique to India than the so-called “Star of David” is to present day Jews or ancient Judahites.
    In fact two thousand years ago the Israelites had no National Symbol, they had the hexagram and the swastika just as many other peoples (non-Jews) along with other various mystical, spiritual, and sacred geometric symbols.
    Just as the swastika is NOT unique to Hindu and Buddhist societies, the hexagram also is not Hebrew in origin although the Israelites always regarded it as their highest symbol or the symbol that most represented their relationship with infinitely large and the infinitely small in the universe, heaven and earth, male and female; most of all the symbol represented the Israelites desire for peace between all the levels of life in creation from the great to the small so that they may all shine together as ONE.
    The Hebrews always regarded the Star as their key to opening the realms of light on the physical earth and in their souls, but they also acknowleged the swastika for it’s purpose in the cosmos, the activity of creation and destruction is fate itself just as galexies are born by white holes so they are destroyed by black holes.
    The White Holes represent the swastika of life and birth in the universe and we all owe our existence to the this birth, for we all live on gigantic swastika’s called galaxies; and they represent the positive aspect of the swastika, that of life; but in the physical world the swastika eventually takes the turn for the worst once it is time to die, for it always end’s in destruction.
    In the end of physical life on a galaxy the black hole takes control and that is the fate of desire.
    This is why the Ancient Hebrews while acknowledging the swastika and respecting it’s power as the giver of life and death, but they also knew where it’s energy eventually led and so they “lived in the world, but refused to be of it” so they served the side of the swastika that supported life, and knew that if they did that perfectly throughout many cycles of time, when the black holes opened and physical matter met it’s fate, they would be rescued by the inter dimensional Lords of Light, and as Noah was saved from the flood so would they be rescued from the physical world at it’s eventual destruction.
    Physical life in and of itself does not garrentee damnation, for if one eternally serves life he will live joy filled days and be saved from the fateful destruction.
    This is why to serve life fanatically is to be a true rebel, a rebel against fate, against the darkness of the final solution of the universe.
    The black hole represents justice, it is the swastika of destruction at the end of cycles of physical existence; the Ancient Hebrews were well aware of the significance of the swastika and praised it for allowing them to live an earthly existence but their blessed destiny lied in their relationship with the infinitely large and the infinitely small, the universal and the microscopic, the human, animal, plant, and cell kingdoms (representing the infinitely small) as well as the angels in the highest realms (lifeforms of the worlds of the infinitely large and transcendental existence of higher realties-dimensions-universes-realms ).
    If they succeeded and activated the light of love and life in all this creation and connect the greatly small with infinitely high, and thus physical life-time cells to heavenly realms: they would be protected in their cyclic journey’s through physical existence, favored by all that lives, and eventually rescued by Lords of Light at the final destruction along with all the creation they awakened.
    This was a salvation show for life.
    The Aryans stuck with the swastika while the Hebrews realized the connection between the fate of the swastika and their relationship with the universe and so had the Hexagram as their highestly venerated symbol in the way that the Indians and Tibetans regarded (and still regard) the swastika as their highest symbol (or their relationship with fate, creation and destruction).
    The star was chosen as the National symbol of Jewry when the Zionist creed came into existence, before then, the hexagram was just one among many symbols which Hebrew kabbalists held in high regard, and it is known because in ancient Israeli temples they have the swastika and the Star of David side by side.
    It is quite a conspiracy theory to claim that Jewish missionaries left their homeland to spread their religion to continents as far as South America, I’m not saying it is an impossibility, it could be true but there is no facts to back the claim.
    They’re are also no facts to back up that Hindu’s with red dots on their foreheads went spreading Hinduism to all peoples, leaving them with swastika’s as a reward.
    The fact remains that we do not know where these symbols came from, it is a mystery, but a mystery with many clues if you look at the cultures that carry them, for they all talk of exalted beings that descended from the sky, or better yet the stars (in the sky) in many cases.
    Each culture gives these beings different names, but the meaning is always the same.
    Indians called them Aryans, Hebrew societies called the spirits of these Elohim “Angles” and the ‘physical representatives’ of the Angelic–heavenly metaphysical spirits were refered to as the “Sons of God”, who created a human elite called the “Sons of Light” by crossbreeding with their human prototype, this race went on to father great individuals , “Men of great and Renown”.
    It was only when the Sons of the Elohim mated with a “WRONG RACE” that the unrighteous result was that of a freak known in many cultures as “the giants” who was a very physically strong but power obsessed to the piont of which the only solution was extermination.
    But when these “shining ones” or “Sons of the Creator” mated with their human prototypes they simply created a human elite, because they did this they then had to incarnate in this new race they had created and live out many cycles on the earth as guiders to the masses of blind humanity.
    Certain sections of these beings choose enlightenment the others choose control and this was how the “wicked elite” or “wicked Shepard’s came into existence, thus the war between the Elite of Light (symbolized by David) and the Elite of darkness (symbolized by King Saul); thus the War between the spiritual Israel and the materialistic Israel is symbolized between the eternal battle between the forces of David (the Light bearer–Son of the Elohim) and that of Saul (the materialistic angle that lacked the creativity to have happiness without lies, and so lies became his power against those who knew-not (non-Gnostic’s) in the physical world because only by deceiving could he keep others under his control for his enjoyment; and the only ones he can deceive are average humans.
    The animals see him coming and reject his lies, and the angles and their sons have always known who and what he was.
    For is the one that prevents and many times succeeds in convincing the masess of the inoccent from listening to the wisdom of the Light bearers, the real shepherds who are meant to guide the masses of humanity to light, life, and truth.
    So many diverse cultures had different names for what appeared to them as the physical manifestations of the highest light, so them, they were “Gods”, especially to primitive peoples whatever the color of their skin, and to both primitive and advanced advanced civilizations alike, (whatever the color of their skin), from different parts of the world; and ALL of these civilizations which had no contact with each other sited the Pleadies and Orion as the two main star systems of “the Gods”.
    There is no way that is a coincidence, absolutely no way, otherwise there must have been a conspiracy of some earthly race that spread both the swastika and the hexagram, both the idea of the pyramid and the prophecy that sites 2012 as the end of a cycle, and sites both the Pleadies and Orion as star systems to be worshiped.
    That is quite a conspiracy if “The Gods” weren’t in fact what everyone claims they are: “advanced beings from the stars”.
    Were they Hindu’s from India?
    Israeli’s from the Middle East and Africa?
    Aryans from Atlantis?
    Or Gods from the sky?
    They were one or two of those things but I do not think that a small tribe of overzealous Semites colonized vast oversea territories and there is no evidence to suggest that the Hindu race every left India neither for missionary work nor for Imperial interests.
    That leaves us either with the Atlantians, the Gods from the sky, or something possibly in-between; perhaps an ancient race that we are unaware of.
    The fact is we do not “know” the whole story but we do know the basic puzzling facts:

    Somehow:

    #1 The idea to build pyramids was put into practice by diverse races and civilizations across the planet.

    #2 The Pleadies and Orion were singled out for exoneration by all these peoples as both the dwelling places of the Gods as well as star systems to worshiped.

    #3 They all had myths about “white men from the sky” from primitive tribes in The America’s and Africa to darkskined peoples like the Ancient Hebrews (the Hebrew Book of Enoch claims: {Chapter 86 Book Of Enoch}. “Then I raised my eyes a second time towards heaven, and saw in a vision, that behold there came forth from heaven as it were “The Likeness of White Men”. One came forth from thence; and three with him.
    Now remember that the earliest recordings of the Book of Enoch were discovered at the dead sea and they carbon date past 2,300 years so not only is this the oldest Hebrew document, but it is also technically the oldest surviving hand written document on earth. “Perhaps proof that the Original Hebrews were aware of their extraterrestrial–interdimesional forefathers could be found all over The Book Of Enoch, specificaly in the section of Noah’s birth.

    When Lamech the son of Methuselah gave birth to Noah they noticed his angelic appearance that did not resemble that of the common Hebrews but there heavenly Forfathers.

    {“CHAPTER105 1 Enoch”} “After days, my son Methusalah took a wife for his son Lamech.{Luke. 3.36-38} 2.
    She became pregnant by him, and brought for a child, the flesh of which was white as snow red as a rose, the hair of whose head was of white wool, and long, and whose eyes were beautiful.
    When he opened them he illuminated all the house, like the sun, the whole house abounded with light.
    3. And when he was taken from the hand of the midwife, opening also his mouth, he spoke to the Lord of righteousness.

    Then Lamech his father was afraid of him and, and flying away came to his own father Methusalah and said: I have begotten a son, a changed son.
    He is not human; but, resembeling the offspring of the angels of heaven, is of a different nature from ours, being altogether unlike us.
    4. His eyes are bright as the rays of the sun; his countenance glorious, and he looks not as if he belongs to us but to the angels.
    5. I am afraid, lest something miraculous should take place on earth in his days.
    6. And now, my father, let me reatreat and reqest you to go to our progenitor Enoch, and to learn from him the truth; for his residence is with the angels.
    7. When Mathusalah heard the words of his son, he came to me at the extremities of the earth; for he had been informed that I was there; and he cried out.
    8. I heard his voice, and went to him, saying: I am hear my son, since you have come to me.
    9. He answered saying: On account of a great event have I come to you.
    10. And now, my father, hear me; for to my son Lamech a child has been born, who resembles not him, and whose nature is not like the nature of man. His color is whiter than snow, he is redder than a rose; the hair of his head is whiter than white wool; his eyes are like the rays of the sun; and when he opened them he illuminated the whole house. 11.When he was taken from his mid-wife, he opened his mouth, and blessed the Lord of heaven. 12.His father Lamech feared, and fled to me, believing not that the child belonged to him, but that he resembled the angels of heaven. And behold I come to you, that you might point out to me the truth”.
    This is just one among many examples of what I am talking about, and the first quote from chapter 86 about the “White Men from the sky” is a common theme with religious communities of Aryan decent as well as primitive tribal communities who claimed contact and had civilizations to prove their mythological interpretations (or delusions).

    #4 Where these themes of the activities of supreme beings dwell (which is practically all over the earth, each culture styling “the story” with the colors and artistic imaginations of their culture (racial makeup);
    so do many mystical symbols two of which happen to be the most popular and well known symbols to modern day people: The Swastika and the Star of David (Hexagram).
    One is known to be the symbol used by the Nazi’s the other is known to be the symbol of Judaism, but just as the Hexagram had no special relationship with Jewry before the 1800′s, and just as the swastika had not special German connection before the arrival of Hitler, so India has no special claim to the swastika, no more special however than any other culture who obtained the holy symbol.
    But the fact that India is the only surviving culture which is in fact “life centered” (being vegetarian, anti-colonialist, being aware of the cyclical view of history, reality, and life altogether and how to serve LIFE so that one can ward of the curses of DEATH in the natural (physical) and spiritual (metaphysical) world etc.) I think gives India the right to “claim the swastika” because they are the “most” righteous among living nations.
    The only fault India has is the caste system, because in the way it is applied it weakens the country as well as the amazing religion of Hinduism and thus strengthens the rights of Islam, Christianity, and Communism over the masses of the oppressed.
    If India can work out it’s problem of caste oppression it can claim the swastika, but only morally, NOT historically.
    Historically the swastika did not originate in India and from India, but came to India just as it miraculously appeared in other cultures scattered across the earth.
    To claim that the swastika is a “Hindu-Indian symbol” is to be a Hindu supremest just as the German supremacists claimed that it was Germanic of origin just because they happen to be present all throughout Germany, so is it present throughout the world and the universe for that matter, therefor it is not a African symbol as some black supremacists claim, it is not a Hindu symbol as many Hindu’s might claim, it is not a German, Aryan, or Anglo-Saxon symbol either, it is the universe’s symbol, it belongs to the universe, and whoever has knowledge of it has knowledge of the infinite cycle of creation and destruction in the universe, perhaps this is why “The Gods from the sky” found it essential to give these symbols to their subjects so that they may have the basic idea of this truth .

    So we must conclude either that it was the Indians who gave the world the swastika, and the Jews who gave the world the star (hexagram), or that a force, either mystical or physically exist ant that made contact with all these peoples and inspired the idea to build pyramids as well as the symbols to explain the meaning of life.
    Either it was a spiritual fever, a set of concepts and building blocks of knowledge that infected all these diverse peoples, an ancient race that helped activate these visions, prophecies, and practices of such diverse peoples; or my favorite choice: ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER!
    I don’t think it is honest to say it was all spirituality or racial superiority, and that is what you will find among the extreme promoters of dogma; the truth is probably a mixture of the two claims because the evidence strongly suggests (both suggestion of a ancient race of gods running around teaching everyone as well as the fact that these peoples had a great spirituality of their own both prior to and after the arrival of the gods (whoever they were); yes you can acknowledge both facts!
    Something inspired specific ideas, works, and rituals and we have no proof of what it was.
    One thing we do know is that the peoples who used these symbols had myths that sound eerily similar, sometimes it is just a different version of the same basic story: Gods, came down, taught man many things, occasionally enjoyed creating offspring with their daughters, and then left.
    This story is repeated in almost every culture on the face of the earth, from the most primitive to the most advanced, all of these peoples also possessed these auspicious symbols that just happen to be present in nature, the universe, and the princables and geometric laws which hold it together.
    It would make perfect earthly sense if the swastika and the star were to be found simply in the Mediterranean, or simply in Asia, or directly from Africa herself; it would even make sense if it was only Mediterraneans, Asian, and European communites had these symbols because Mediterranean Imperial peoples such as those of Rome and Greece conquered much of these territories and could have easily spread these symbols.
    The fact that these symbols are in area’s that were in no way connected and since these symbols were not national or Imperial symbols, they were both natural and spiritual symbols, not something some superstitious peoples dreamed up but representatives of serious forces that are present in our universe and in fact represent infinity (hexagram) and fate (swastika).
    From a higher level they have nothing to do with race, nation, or religion although races, nations, and cultures can “connect themselves with these cosmic symbols-energies” by “turning on” as the psychedelic Hippie Guru Timothy Leary put it.
    So either mental-spiritual viruses made these diverse peoples from different parts of the globe draw these symbols and build pyramids to embody these universal symbols or we can believe the basic crux of that story that is told in so many different ways colored by the cultures who tell them; those “myths”, “traditions’ and ‘legends” of all the peoples that point in the same direction: upwards to those same star systems of Orion and the Pleadies, called by all the peoples of the Swastika and the Star of Israel (Isis- Ra – EL) the homes of the celestial Gods.
    Reported by the Ancient Hebrews as the dwelling place of the angels of EL who “made their own human race in their own image and likeness” and later interbreed with that race to create humans who were great in wisdom, knowledge, and righteousness, with the knowlege (and in some cases the souls of angles and fallen angels) to be “men of great and renown”, guiders, and “shepards” to humanity, a righteouss elite to govern the masess and lead them to the light of life.
    Israel was to be the light to nations, Israel failed that mission, but India has not yet failed to be an example to the nations becuase in many ways it is, but there is still much to work on, particuaraly the caste system.
    With the order of the caste system the Indian Hindu’s can at times be “cruel Shepard’s” to their masses of sheep, a nation that has always since it’s birth respected the rights and Godly powers of animals treats it’s own flock so cruelly and at times even wickedly.
    India is an example in all area’s except it’s caste system, because it puts caste above merit, it is a flawed system, but one that works, until the oppressed rise.
    A little true Christian doctrine of love and mercy for the weak and distressed could do India well but it should be done without foreign and destructive–reactionary ideologies and religions (such as Bolshevism, False Christianity, and Intolerant forms of Islam).

    Another reason India is not necessarily the historical “home of the swastika” is becuase they NEVER had either an over sea’s Empire nor a missonary description, thus the particular interpertations of the Hindu religion remains alive in India but is not to be found outside India.
    The symbols and conceptions of Hinduism are indeed to be found all over the globe, in places where swastika’s and stars (Hexagrams) are present but the Hindu religion per say is restricted to Indian territory, the only forms to be found outside India have been done either in the 20th century by Westerners or in Asia by the followers of the Buddha who was an international (transcending race, tribe, and nation)
    Now I know Ancient India had an awesome civilization that stretched as far as Afghanistan but in the same way as the Nazis all the conquering done by India concerned “living space” was for their growing population and developing civilization, it also so-happened that the Arab world tended to find Hindu’s disagreeable and often quarreled with them,
    thus causing Indians to “justify” they’re practicle needs of living space.
    Of course the conquered land was also to be exploited, and in that case they did engage in what a Marxist would call Nationalistic Imperialism; but they never had an oversea Empire as the British, the Romans, the Greeks, or the Atlantians (if they existed) and this is probably one of the secrets to India’s test of time for all oversea Empires eventually collapse because they do not have the resources to sustain their own people and their Empire, and their greedy spirit brings them to a final defeat even if it takes a few thousand years the law of life eventually destroys them.
    India is a nation-culture that has both done the right works and had the right faith, their life centered philosophy gives them protection from the death forces of the natural world and their will not to dominate other cultures but instead to “guide them” and not to “control them” justifies the survival of their culture on a higher moral level.
    So they justify the survival of their culture by both earthly wisdom (practical knowlege) and higher spiritual-ethical princables.
    So they serve both earthly truth and heavenly ideals without being unrighteous or a hypocrite and this is why they have protection from both physical and spiritual death forces.
    Their only sin was and is the application of their caste system, and it is this sin that brought the British to their land and allowed them to cruelly discriminate against all Indians as if they were all Sudras in the caste system.
    Evil breeds evil.
    But besides the caste system India is the most progressive, life-centered, enlightened, and beautiful national culture on earth, the only surviving Israelite culture actually (if you see Israel as a spiritual and material ideal)
    And one thing the Indians and the Israelites always had in common was that they were not colonialists, but had no problem conquering large masses that could threaten them, and it seems that in both cases the masses of Arabs are the treat and the subject of subjugation, exploitation, conquering, and yes oppression by the two “blessed nations”: India and Israel.
    That is what India and Israel have done in the past to their Arab neighbors, but they never went world dominating; and they restricted their exploits to their basic surroundings and people whom they felt could seriously threaten them security wise, as a reward for their paranoia they got new sections of land or “living space”.
    Even though they hav e lost the greatness of their pasts they have not lost their civilizations, and India has lost almost nothing in 6000 years.
    The doctrine of World domination is not only a disease for the victims, it is also a curse for the masters.
    When a nation gets handed the opportunity to dominate the world that means that they have found themselves subject to such a deceptive temptation because they already have great sins to account for.
    The voice that tells races, nations, and religions to dominate is the voice of the enemy of those very nations, races, and religions, for that is a sure death certificate signed by the so-called “winner”.
    In a reality they are already the loser and it is their own death of their own spirit that influences them in this destructive direction.
    Once they lose they’re own spiritual, ethical, cultural values they have absolutely nothing better to do with their time than to take away those very things from others, the force that allows them to triumph is the weakness of those subject to them.
    Therefor it is the sins of others that open the doors where Imperial demons can subjugate and destroy the inhabitants both spiritually and physically.
    The Rise of Rome was probably a consequence of the crimes of the survivors of Atlantis, and the Rise of the British Empire was a continuation of the vice of Rome, and America has secured the blessings of Empire and the rule of law is the way they do it, by “assuming” their victory they no longer have to conquer by the sword (as the British had to do) they declare their cause already won, until the subject nation refuses to comply (as is the case with the war in Iraq) (then America must use the sword by promoting pacifism).

    India never did that, the farthest Indians went in the conquering department was about as far as the ancient Israelites in the manner of establishing “living space” which was the inspiration of Moses, and so both India and Israel conquered sections of the territories of the Arab world.
    Moses never intended to dominate the world, and Aaron always knew that the earthly goal was to create living space for his wandering people; it was because they slaughtered others to maintain this living space that the idea of Israel was never realized, because they betrayed the very principles they looked to become in tune with, namely those of life.
    Indians have never been wanderers because they developed in India and not coming out of some enslavement, they were born free and following their birth came into contact with the Sons of The Co-Creators who remained on the earth.
    Between Israel and India always lied the same enemy of Arab masses and while the Israelites saw the Arabs as the dark side of their racial history, the Indians saw them as the same basic material grown in impure conditions, that of the desert and not of the tropics, not to mention they had different ancestors; (while the Arabs and Hebrews had the same ancestors “save the few that separate them”.)
    Both India and Israel had their quarrels with the Arab masses and this was one of their inspirations for the conquering they did against them.
    But is living space and colonialism the same thing?
    I think not.
    It can have similar aspects such as the exploitation of the population and territory subject, but it is still based on territory to live and the winning of the freedom create (unhindered) and build culture and civilization, and these are the most primitive dictates of nature for the same law is practiced in every other natural kingdom; in the same way that nature allows bears to have living space and every other specie; so humanity must upgrade that system so that it can all exist together without one striking the other, all in peace, side by side, in perfect unity, tolerance, and individuality.
    Humans try to believe that they have risen above this system but that is impossible, humans could never rise above the system of the planet, but we can “raise it” to a higher, more Eden like level—”A Vegetarian Planet”.
    Instead humanity under the control of wicked shepherds have not only proven that they are not above anything.
    Not only can people of the same race and culture have internal problems, people of different ideologies have also proven unsuccessful in living side by side in peace.
    Communism, Christianity, Islam, they all say “go and make disciples to every nation”, but what they really mean is the domination of the nations with their specific view in mind; and Islam is in fact the most tolerant when compared to Christianity and Bolshevism, for the Muslim does not look to change your soul, he just wants you to “surrender” to their will, and then they will give you “tolerance”, but they still want you under their authority, and this still makes them both primitive and inferior to the humanoid ideal.
    So the only way cultures can live in peace is when they dwell in the land nature created them in, and this is the very opposite of colonialism, this is what prevents colonialism.
    Respecting each others living space is the best way to develop an easy relationship with creation.
    Colonialism, (in opposition to the belief in nature given living space) is based on one race or nation unatrually forcing themselves on others territory.
    By simply using the raw power of the knowledge entrusted to them, they act like advanced beasts who use what they know in order to dominate, control, enslave, and eventually destroy.
    They believe themselves to be above all of life, in reality they are not a light to the nations but a group of greed filled beasts dressed up as civil humans, instead of teaching all races and nations to find the light of love and life in their own hearts, in their own colors, and in their own cultures they conquer by never ending streams of lies, bribery, and expliotation and extermination of any who oppose this wise system.
    They oppose the very programing which the Creator gave to individuals, ideological communities, races, and nations by imposing their values on the inhabitants; in another words COLONIALISM IS AN ASULT ON OTHERS LIVING SPACE!
    It is a betrayal of nature given rights and the idea of states rights.
    Instead they preach a Federalism that is not meant to reform but to control ,purchase, and eventually destroy all nations, races, ideological-religious communities, and individuals of peace and love.

    Great Britain was a small Island who made it their
    duty to conquer territory not to live on but solely to exploit for all it’s natural resources both plant animal and human enslavement and to “spread English culture and Christian values”.
    India never did anything like that, the farthest they went was to conquer masses of Arab neighbors who were probably hostile to them in the first place, I’m not saying that would justify Indians genocide against the Arab populations, but there are reasons why people commit genocide against their neighbors.
    For one thing no one ever asks “what about the people who would have been genocided”?
    If modern day Israel did not have the financial and military backing from the Capitalist White Powers (America and Great Britain) the Arabs would have driven them into the sea, in another words “they already would have been exterminated”.
    So when people try to blame Israel and say that they are conspiring to slowly get rid of the Arabs one should look at the numerical value of the two and must realize that it is impossible for a minority to oppress a majority and that it is inequality that often drives the minority to criminal actions against the the other.
    Arabs to Israelis is almost like the Germans to the Russians, it isn’t fair play because Arabs have so much greater numerical value and could with no problem wipe Israel out in the same way that German families would be helpless against invading
    Russians.
    The nicer you are the more you will be taken advantage of that is an “inconvenient truth” and when you are at someone else’s mercy you endanger yourself.
    The Germans realized it and that is why they left the League of Nations, they realized that when you have to trust someone else with your freedom the temptation is too great on the other side to take advantage and had learned what happens when you agree to “lay down your arms” like a peace loving creative people should: VERSILES TREATY!!!
    Likewise the Jews who suffered under the Germans came to the realization that they should never be under another’s mercy again thus the reason for their aggressive National Zionism.
    Once you are betrayed once you should not sit back and wait to be betrayed again, I still don’t think that being betrayed justify becoming a bigger monster than your oppressor but it does explain how this could happen.
    The question is what to do about it.
    The Arab masses are chooseing revert to terrorism in their fight against their oppressors and look what it is getting them.
    They still haven’t learned from history: you cannot declare war on England and America and get away with it, if they beat the Germans and the Japanese with tanks, and uniformed soldiers they think the USA could not bomb them all out of existance?
    In any case it is never safe for a minority to be under the mercy of a majority, and when this happens whether Jews to Germans, Germans to Russians, Indians to Arabs, or Israeli’s to Arabs or Black Americans to White Americans…it is to be the responsibility of the majority to prove their righteousness by showing humaneness towards their lesser brother, but when we a talking of brutes, brutes understand neither righteousness nor mercy.
    This is why minorities can become the enemy, because they learn from masters!!!
    It makes perfect sense that Israel would stay on the defensive, for in the past you had Israel in the West
    and India in the East, and between them was the same enemy of wandering semitic (partly Negro) nomads who had no traditions or culture to keep them from the desire to conquer.
    It is true that the more creative a people the less they feel a need to conquer because they don’t even need to leave their house, this is also what makes them weak and subject to the material superiority of a numerically greater force.
    The Mongols against China, the Arab masses against both ancient and modern day Israel and India, the masses of Russians in comparison to the much smaller group of Germans…and on and on.
    Every continental group is naturally entitled to their living space and should not be interfered with by unnatural Western conceptions which cause havoc whether they are coming from a genuine leftist (communistic-Christian) place of wanting to help and free others or from the right wing desire to spread war, capitalism, and imperialism.
    I’m against imperialism but I am also against unfair situations in which an entire valuable culture can be wiped out.
    That is my view of the peoples that “would have been exterminated” and sometimes it makes more sense for the culturally superior but numerically inferior nation to protect itself against a numerically superior group of barbarians.
    Now the British Empire and the would have been Japanese Empire these are instances when a minority actually outsteps it’s natural bounds and not only conquers their neighboring enemies (like India, Israel, and Nazi Germany have reactionally conspired to do and succeeded in doing in the past) but went to dominate others living space, and exploit them for everything.
    Now the British Empire was purely a unnatural Empire of White Supremesy in the sense that they just looked to dominate every inch of the globe, to spread their Empire so that it reached every race, and this is why their Empire collapsed, because it had not taken natural laws into account.
    The British Empire claimed to preserve culture and order but realy did more culture distrupting that culture creating let alone cultureal preserving.
    Instead they enslaved the other cultures and explioted their living space given to them by mother nature herself and thus raped the planet and it’s children.
    The Japanese also oversteped their bounds, but they still justified it by reflecting the fact that Asia was on the verge of collapse not becuase of Asian inferiority but because of Western (White man) interloping.
    The White Man believed he had a burden to save everyone else but in many cases he in fact destroyed the greatest qualities his subject possessed.
    Thus China had become unstable as a consequence of the White Man’s interference, then once the instability reached a level where Chinamen were getting poorer and the White Man was getting richer along came the message of Karl Marx!
    Another White Man with a new solution!
    Once the colored masses realize that Marxism is yet another trick set forth to play into the game of the white race’s dream of world domination they will reject this “highly moral philosophy” that is meant to exist on a planet different from our own just as they eventually rejected Christianity with it’s “salvation of every nation”=dominion by the nation who engages in this mission.
    This is why Communism and Christianity cannot camouflage the organic, because the race is organic. People try to hide behind all kinds of things: religion, ideology, nationalities in the end when one group believes they have been entrusted with a mission to “save” or “liberate” others whether through religious-capitalistic wars or communist “revolutions” if a race takes on this faith, even if it genuinely wishes to be international and serve and save others runs the risk and heavy temptation to become masters of others especially when they come across a race that they just do not relate to or just simply hate.
    All this lack of trust comes from watching history and watching others hide behind their religion or ideology in order to spread their racial domination as well as all the losers who hide behind the achievements of their race in order to claim that they are a great individual, all of these people are sick and should be called out for what they are!
    Both the racialist-nationalist bigwigs as well as all they’re so-called “international” cousins are the cause of the global problem.

    Anyway, the swastika, is not a Indian symbol, it is a universal and therefor international symbol for all that lives!

  16. 225. curtis Haley says:

    I feel that the swastika should be reused but only the positive meaning that what it once meant. Like you said it meant and still dose prosperity, and well being this I feel should be what it means because this is what is means however it is still a sensitive issue because of the Nazis… that is why even I have to becareful useign the swastika or even the swastika itself.

  17. 224. salamandir says:

    i want you to know that i fully support the aims and ideals of this web site. it’s about time this sacred symbol should be liberated from the hands of the haters, and regain its place as a symbol of luck, love, prosperity and auspiciousness. to that end, i have incorporated it on my art car, complete with a link back to this page. ॐ गंगणापतयेनमः AUM GANGANAPATAYE NAMAH

  18. 223. DAVID says:

    There’s nothing wrong with a regular swastika…so I don’t realy get it!
    Maybe we should ban the star of David as well…look at the way the Israeli’s treat the Palestinians…!!!
    Does Israel need a religious symbol in their flag such as a David star?
    It’s not fair towards secular Israeli’s to use a religious based symbol such as a David star….
    What are we talking about?

  19. 222. Kalki Avatar says:

    Dear Visitors,

    Subject: Why do you discriminate Swastik and Hitler? :: Open http://www.swastik.org :: Read Chapter 3

    I am Owner of http://www.swastik.org, I spent nearly 4 years to develop this website. I have been seeing discrimination of Blacks, Swastik and Hitler for last 10 years. At last I want to disclose some secretes of Swastik and Hitler. Definition of Swastik is Lord Vishnu’s Vishnu Chakra, It is not SWASTIK_A but it is SWASTIK. Character A shouldn’t be there at the end of SWASTIK, OK. Well, Regarding Hitler? He was Prophet “King Of Jews”. Hitler didn’t kill 6 Million Jews but far less then 6 Million. Hitler did Jews Holocaust drama to scare Jews to leave from Europe to God Promised Land Jerusalem (Israel). Holy Book Bible clearly says that Jerusalem (Israel) is the homeland for Jews. If Hitler didn’t do Holocaust drama Jews wouldn’t have got God Promised Land Jerusalem (Israel). So if you want more details read chapter 3 in http://www.swastik.org. Remember don’t misuse this website. I am Hindu, I read all Holy Books, I am from India and I am Black man. Ok. Note: Hitler didn’t die in Bunker..

    Thanking you Internet Visitors,
    Kalki Avatar

  20. 221. Radha Devi says:

    As a spiritualist who uses the swastika symbol, I am happy to see this site. I am also of Jewish descent, and keenly understand the feelings that some Jewish people have about the swastika. I do my best to explain it, but feel it will take another century for the paradigm shift. I hope to use some of the materials on this site to educate others.

    Meanwhile, let me please remind others on this list that there are guidelines. If you haven’t done so, please refer to the sidebar:

    # Please respect others. No incitement to hatred will be tolerated.

    # Please discuss the issues and the opinions, without judging the individuals who raise them.

    # Rather than judging or stereotyping a particular person or group, it is more helpful to discuss their words or actions. This applies equally when discussing historical figures, religions, races or any other group.

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