if u call me irrational and of twisted sense, then where is the freedom to express thoughts.
u should allow critics to write here also. there are always people of two types, those who speak for u and those who speak against u. both should be treated equally. no body can stop the sun from rising on the horizon. the truth will come out one day .
i am very sorry if any body felt hurty about this. but before coming to conclustions one should analyse and atleast pay a look at the facts.
its god who created man, man didnt created god. so before nullifying facts as myths one should pay attention to it.
This party is so far off-base and so extremely distorted in his twisted sense of historical facts and research, that we wont even touch it.
We advise anyone and everyone to PAY NO ATTENTION to the ramplings of this writer.
This and other supportive websites and non-web entities are about truth, not the Scizophrenic ramblings and nonsensible myths as submitted by #898 above.
why did hitler did’nt invade vatican city. because he was a sage and had his likes and sympathy for church and priest and volenteers of god.
hitler was a typical vegeterian which proves him as a hindu brahman.( equvalent to christian church father)
he didnt lived in berlin chancellory, instead he lived at eagle’s nest bergehoffe, on the outskirts of bavarian montains. know we know that hindu sages do not live in palace, they live on the outskirts of montains , hence hitler lived on hill tops.
his hatred for jews grew when he learned from bible that jews brutually crucified jesus!!!. hitler was a good painter , he painted mother marry with little jesus in her arms. jews dislike this image!!! why ?///////
hitler twisted swastika to 45 degrees because our world is approching the junction of golden age !!!
swastika is the symbol of hindus also. it means purity, good luck, and clockwise rotation of the world,life, emotions, marriage ,death and rebirth.
a person who uses it is too extra ordinary.
lord buddha used swastika because he is considered the 9th incarnation of lord vishnu.
he re claimed it from lord krishna th 8th incarnation of vishnu.
hitler reclaimed swastika from lord buddha.
who is considered as 6th incarnation of lord vishnu”
hitler also used an “axe swastika”. hence he is the incarnation of immortal lord parashurama , “the rama with axe” who is a priest and hates royal dynasties and kingdoms and wants their downfall.
this the biggest secret of occult which even the germans do not know about. for knowing hitler they have to study hindus and their vedic books for reference.
parashurama will appear 21 times on earth and destroy the royal shartiyas with rage and savegness.
he appeared in 13th century as mongol warrior ghengis khan and conquered the world on horse back and built the largest contiguos empire on earth.
know, lord kalki , the 10th incarnation of vishnu who will belong to india (bharata) will reclaim the swastika from hitler and ignite the third world war!!!!!!!
You people will ban a symbol used many thousands years before and very much holy to Great religions like Hinduism and Buddhism etc,simply this is misused by somebody else!
Is it?
Even Harappan excavated seals which belonged to 3300BC have Swastikas.
Those who try or argue to ban Swastika are real racists,they simply justify those opinions of Hitler about selective conspiracy against all noble ancient culture and religion!
This is truth!
The over 6 million jews, 5 million Polish non jews, and countless other minorities?
January 20th, 2010 at 11:34 am.
ANSWER:
For us, the Native American Embassy, Native American Holocaust (Council) Museum, the Lenni Lenape Phoenix, and American Indian Church, ALL OF THE ABOVE, and THE ENTIRE WORLD; EVERYONE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WHO HAVE THIS SYMBOL AS PART OF THEIR ANCIENT & NOT-SO-ANCIENT TRADITIONS & CULTURES!
~ Chief Minister ThunderWolfe
Post Scriptum:
I would anticipate that the Authors of this “Reclaim The Swastika” domain share our sentiments as we do theirs!
It was one man who seemed to permanently corrupt a symbol which meant good things for so many centuries. I’m doing a “controversial series of paintings” and my main subject is the swastika and how it was used thoughout history before Adolf Hitler.
Why is it I’m being harrassed by the locals here for supporting the use of this symbol? Why is it still so controversial? I mean really, my generation, the teenagers and young adults, have become so comfortable with everything else.
My series of paintings WILL be displayed on my various web pages once I finish them. I agree with Lone Wolf back there. Why allow this symbol to be so unacceptable? I so go for it and use it as it was used before WWII, before the Nazis.
“…..a painting that I made in my late teen’s, painted in 3 colors: Red, Black & White. . .
….Black = darkness, forboding & provoking thoughts of melancholy, the Red = dominance, anger, hatred & evil. The white, I intentionally portrayed as MUCH LESS in the picture. … to me it was the failing image of the good of mankind. I believe is becoming so much harder to find because of our Human Condition that could potentially destroy not only ourselves, but also ANY realm in which we live.”
RESPONSE: To us, BLACK, represents the West, where the Sun Dies and the Thunder Comes, when even we sleep as the light is dimmed. RED, not hate or anger, but, represents LIFE, WARMth, the color of the HEAT that arives from the South where life comes back from. It is the color of our very blood, which makes every Woman her most powerful medicine during her Moon-Time. WHITE, the color of the NORTH, where the Purifying snows come from, and the Eagle, our protector, and Messenger to Grandfather.
“This picture that I made, resembles the Swastika in the fact that it is very directional, flowing from inside out. Almost as if the Darkness & Hatred almost seemingly over-shadow the Light – – yet the good of mankind still hangs on, not to become extinct.”
RESPONSE: The Swastika, is Balanced, equal on all sides, from within and without. There is also a Balance between Evil and Good. But, this, I shall leave for someone else’s wisdom.
I was always heart-broken to know that the Nazi’s had turned this symbol that I was intrested in, into something associated with such hatred of other Cultures & Belief Systems.
RESPONSE: It was neither Hitler, nor the Nazi’s who turned this symbol into an evil one., neither by ‘association!’ It was merely used (The German Form) as the Nazi’s Loga, Emblem, Charm, etc.
It was later, and by others, that the world body was cooerced or misled into believing and treating the Swastika and all shapes and forms of it as “Evil!”
However, the Swastika, NEVER became, nor was ever evil. And, as with any and all symbols, will never become evil!
“….I wanted to OWN a piece of Hitler, as a show that YOU SIR are dead, your spirit beaten & all the negativity you once bred is now dead. It, to me, is owning HIM, my feeling as a bit of revenge for all that he has done to everyone around him.”
RESPONSE:
We need no trinkets to know that any evil individual is dead, or at least the body, thereof. And, NO ONE can “Own” another, anymore than we can “Own” the land from which we come.
Unfortunately, Hitler, nor the Nazis “Bred” any negativity or hatred. These entities only planted the seeds that brought is to the surface of many others who already had these imbalances within themselves. One cannot Breed Hatred. This is a Learned Behavior. The raw ingredients are already present in all those who come to releasing that hatred. Only the Balanced Heart keeps it all in check.
“I thank THIS SITE for helping ME to bring my Painting back to life & attempting to change the Swastika back to what it once stood for. And so as NOT to be remembered as a symbol of evil, but as a symbol of any people that overcome evil.”
RESPONSE: Your painting never died! Perhaps, you, yourself, let it so. Even if the painting has burned to ash in a fire, the painting should have always been alive within your own mind and heart. My question would be, Why did you let it die?
We share your sentiments with regard to the Reclaim the Swastika website.
However, it is very important not just to “Remember” but, just as the Site’s Title implies, to “Reclaim” and USE OUR SYMBOL as we once did and should never have stopped because of a handful of civil, social, nationalistic & intellectual bullies who dictated that we trash our own traditions, because they have, in fact, developed their own degrees of new Hatred(s).
“Be SAFE, Be WELL – – PEACE To ALL. . .
-Lone Wolf”
Walk in love beauty, balance and harmony,
~ Minister ThunderWolfe
I agree that it is wrong that the Nazis be allowed to own this symbol. Their defeat should be made complete, instead of an eternal persistence their ghost by allowing its ownership of this symbol.
See how it goes? Jew whirls in to verbally dominate the field of discourse. This officious Jew, by the way, has called me to threaten me with his “package” which, says him, he’s “forwarding” to the FCC, as though the FCC is an on-call police force for perpetually “offended” types like this.
Hey Jew, why hide behind the name “Native American”? why not yiddle for your own mythical martyrs?
“…Ridiculous that we grant Hitler the victory of owning this ancient symbol….”
RESPONSE: Hitler never OWNED the Swastika. The German form, belonged to all Germans, and the German form did not belong to Hitler either: Hitler was an Austrian Jew. Austrians and Jews have their own symbols.
“…you might think about changing the header on your website. The font has military connotations, and it seems like your goal is to distance the swastika from such associations.”
RESPONSE: We (the Native American Embassy & Holocaust Council see nothing wrong with ReclaimTheSwastika.com’s Heading. Nor do we see any “Military” resemblance or anything Military whatsoever.
The Reclaim The Swastika website’s pages and Heading is fine just the way it is!
Keep up the good work. Ridiculous that we grant Hitler the victory of owning this ancient symbol. However, you might think about changing the header on your website. The font has military connotations, and it seems like your goal is to distance the swastika from such associations.
I, as a child, was somehow drawn to the geometric shape & “flow” of the Swastika symbol. It is a root to a painting that I made in my late teen’s, painted in 3 colors: Red, Black & White. . .
The Red & Black were from my perspective – - equal in their portrayal, Black = darkness, forboding & provoking thoughts of melancholy, the Red = dominance, anger, hatred & evil. The white, I intentionally portrayed as MUCH LESS in the picture. Reason being, as a troubled Lad, to me it was the failing image of the good of mankind. I believe is becoming so much harder to find because of our Human Condition that could potentially destroy not only ourselves, but also ANY realm in which we live.
This picture that I made, resembles the Swastika in the fact that it is very directional, flowing from inside out. Almost as if the Darkness & Hatred almost seemingly over-shadow the Light – - yet the good of mankind still hangs on, not to become extinct.
I was always heart-broken to know that the Nazi’s had turned this symbol that I was intrested in, into something associated with such hatred of other Cultures & Belief Systems.
Now that I’m 40 & an avid coin-collector – - I purchased a coin from W.W.-2 Germany, Swasitka & ALL. I wanted to OWN a piece of Hitler, as a show that YOU SIR are dead, your spirit beaten & all the negativity you once bred is now dead. It, to me, is owning HIM, my feeling as a bit of revenge for all that he has done to everyone around him.
I thank THIS SITE for helping ME to bring my Painting back to life & attempting to change the Swastika back to what it once stood for. And so as NOT to be remembered as a symbol of evil, but as a symbol of any people that overcome evil.
if u call me irrational and of twisted sense, then where is the freedom to express thoughts.
u should allow critics to write here also. there are always people of two types, those who speak for u and those who speak against u. both should be treated equally. no body can stop the sun from rising on the horizon. the truth will come out one day .
i am very sorry if any body felt hurty about this. but before coming to conclustions one should analyse and atleast pay a look at the facts.
its god who created man, man didnt created god. so before nullifying facts as myths one should pay attention to it.
January 25th, 2010 at 5:04 pm.
The Extremes of the IRRATIONAL:
CONCERNING: 898. akn swastika 108
This party is so far off-base and so extremely distorted in his twisted sense of historical facts and research, that we wont even touch it.
We advise anyone and everyone to PAY NO ATTENTION to the ramplings of this writer.
This and other supportive websites and non-web entities are about truth, not the Scizophrenic ramblings and nonsensible myths as submitted by #898 above.
Chief Minister ThunderWolfe
January 25th, 2010 at 2:51 am.
why did hitler did’nt invade vatican city. because he was a sage and had his likes and sympathy for church and priest and volenteers of god.
hitler was a typical vegeterian which proves him as a hindu brahman.( equvalent to christian church father)
he didnt lived in berlin chancellory, instead he lived at eagle’s nest bergehoffe, on the outskirts of bavarian montains. know we know that hindu sages do not live in palace, they live on the outskirts of montains , hence hitler lived on hill tops.
his hatred for jews grew when he learned from bible that jews brutually crucified jesus!!!. hitler was a good painter , he painted mother marry with little jesus in her arms. jews dislike this image!!! why ?///////
hitler twisted swastika to 45 degrees because our world is approching the junction of golden age !!!
January 24th, 2010 at 8:29 pm.
swastika is the symbol of hindus also. it means purity, good luck, and clockwise rotation of the world,life, emotions, marriage ,death and rebirth.
a person who uses it is too extra ordinary.
lord buddha used swastika because he is considered the 9th incarnation of lord vishnu.
he re claimed it from lord krishna th 8th incarnation of vishnu.
hitler reclaimed swastika from lord buddha.
who is considered as 6th incarnation of lord vishnu”
hitler also used an “axe swastika”. hence he is the incarnation of immortal lord parashurama , “the rama with axe” who is a priest and hates royal dynasties and kingdoms and wants their downfall.
this the biggest secret of occult which even the germans do not know about. for knowing hitler they have to study hindus and their vedic books for reference.
parashurama will appear 21 times on earth and destroy the royal shartiyas with rage and savegness.
he appeared in 13th century as mongol warrior ghengis khan and conquered the world on horse back and built the largest contiguos empire on earth.
know, lord kalki , the 10th incarnation of vishnu who will belong to india (bharata) will reclaim the swastika from hitler and ignite the third world war!!!!!!!
January 24th, 2010 at 8:08 pm.
You people will ban a symbol used many thousands years before and very much holy to Great religions like Hinduism and Buddhism etc,simply this is misused by somebody else!
Is it?
Even Harappan excavated seals which belonged to 3300BC have Swastikas.
Those who try or argue to ban Swastika are real racists,they simply justify those opinions of Hitler about selective conspiracy against all noble ancient culture and religion!
This is truth!
January 24th, 2010 at 9:39 am.
NOTE:
We, the Native American Embassy, et al, are NOT reclaiming the Swastica FROM anyone.
We are RECLAIMing the SWASTIKA “FOR” and IN-BEHALF Of the ENTIRE WORLD….EVERYONE!
Everyone except Neo-Nazi’s and other Hate Groups and Hate entities!
~ ThunderWolfe
January 23rd, 2010 at 2:34 pm.
892. anne said:
so who are you reclaiming the swastika from?
The over 6 million jews, 5 million Polish non jews, and countless other minorities?
January 20th, 2010 at 11:34 am.
ANSWER:
For us, the Native American Embassy, Native American Holocaust (Council) Museum, the Lenni Lenape Phoenix, and American Indian Church, ALL OF THE ABOVE, and THE ENTIRE WORLD; EVERYONE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WHO HAVE THIS SYMBOL AS PART OF THEIR ANCIENT & NOT-SO-ANCIENT TRADITIONS & CULTURES!
~ Chief Minister ThunderWolfe
Post Scriptum:
I would anticipate that the Authors of this “Reclaim The Swastika” domain share our sentiments as we do theirs!
January 23rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm.
It was one man who seemed to permanently corrupt a symbol which meant good things for so many centuries. I’m doing a “controversial series of paintings” and my main subject is the swastika and how it was used thoughout history before Adolf Hitler.
Why is it I’m being harrassed by the locals here for supporting the use of this symbol? Why is it still so controversial? I mean really, my generation, the teenagers and young adults, have become so comfortable with everything else.
My series of paintings WILL be displayed on my various web pages once I finish them. I agree with Lone Wolf back there. Why allow this symbol to be so unacceptable? I so go for it and use it as it was used before WWII, before the Nazis.
(Draven Vynocht)
January 23rd, 2010 at 1:00 am.
so who are you reclaiming the swastika from?
The over 6 million jews, 5 million Polish non jews, and countless other minorities?
January 20th, 2010 at 11:34 am.
887. Anonymous asked:
“Can anyone verify why the nazis later tilted the swastika on a 45 degree angle?”
RESPONSE:
DAMNED GOOD QUESTION!
“it was tilted to form an S for socialism”
RESPONSE:
Not so sure about this!
We are anxious to hear the answers given for this one! Unfortunately, we do not have the time for our research here.
Be well,
~ ThunderWolfe
January 17th, 2010 at 3:08 am.
880. Lone Wolf said:
“…..a painting that I made in my late teen’s, painted in 3 colors: Red, Black & White. . .
….Black = darkness, forboding & provoking thoughts of melancholy, the Red = dominance, anger, hatred & evil. The white, I intentionally portrayed as MUCH LESS in the picture. … to me it was the failing image of the good of mankind. I believe is becoming so much harder to find because of our Human Condition that could potentially destroy not only ourselves, but also ANY realm in which we live.”
RESPONSE: To us, BLACK, represents the West, where the Sun Dies and the Thunder Comes, when even we sleep as the light is dimmed. RED, not hate or anger, but, represents LIFE, WARMth, the color of the HEAT that arives from the South where life comes back from. It is the color of our very blood, which makes every Woman her most powerful medicine during her Moon-Time. WHITE, the color of the NORTH, where the Purifying snows come from, and the Eagle, our protector, and Messenger to Grandfather.
“This picture that I made, resembles the Swastika in the fact that it is very directional, flowing from inside out. Almost as if the Darkness & Hatred almost seemingly over-shadow the Light – – yet the good of mankind still hangs on, not to become extinct.”
RESPONSE: The Swastika, is Balanced, equal on all sides, from within and without. There is also a Balance between Evil and Good. But, this, I shall leave for someone else’s wisdom.
I was always heart-broken to know that the Nazi’s had turned this symbol that I was intrested in, into something associated with such hatred of other Cultures & Belief Systems.
RESPONSE: It was neither Hitler, nor the Nazi’s who turned this symbol into an evil one., neither by ‘association!’ It was merely used (The German Form) as the Nazi’s Loga, Emblem, Charm, etc.
It was later, and by others, that the world body was cooerced or misled into believing and treating the Swastika and all shapes and forms of it as “Evil!”
However, the Swastika, NEVER became, nor was ever evil. And, as with any and all symbols, will never become evil!
“….I wanted to OWN a piece of Hitler, as a show that YOU SIR are dead, your spirit beaten & all the negativity you once bred is now dead. It, to me, is owning HIM, my feeling as a bit of revenge for all that he has done to everyone around him.”
RESPONSE:
We need no trinkets to know that any evil individual is dead, or at least the body, thereof. And, NO ONE can “Own” another, anymore than we can “Own” the land from which we come.
Unfortunately, Hitler, nor the Nazis “Bred” any negativity or hatred. These entities only planted the seeds that brought is to the surface of many others who already had these imbalances within themselves. One cannot Breed Hatred. This is a Learned Behavior. The raw ingredients are already present in all those who come to releasing that hatred. Only the Balanced Heart keeps it all in check.
“I thank THIS SITE for helping ME to bring my Painting back to life & attempting to change the Swastika back to what it once stood for. And so as NOT to be remembered as a symbol of evil, but as a symbol of any people that overcome evil.”
RESPONSE: Your painting never died! Perhaps, you, yourself, let it so. Even if the painting has burned to ash in a fire, the painting should have always been alive within your own mind and heart. My question would be, Why did you let it die?
We share your sentiments with regard to the Reclaim the Swastika website.
However, it is very important not just to “Remember” but, just as the Site’s Title implies, to “Reclaim” and USE OUR SYMBOL as we once did and should never have stopped because of a handful of civil, social, nationalistic & intellectual bullies who dictated that we trash our own traditions, because they have, in fact, developed their own degrees of new Hatred(s).
“Be SAFE, Be WELL – – PEACE To ALL. . .
-Lone Wolf”
Walk in love beauty, balance and harmony,
~ Minister ThunderWolfe
January 17th, 2010 at 2:59 am.
I agree that it is wrong that the Nazis be allowed to own this symbol. Their defeat should be made complete, instead of an eternal persistence their ghost by allowing its ownership of this symbol.
January 17th, 2010 at 12:06 am.
“Can anyone verify why the nazis later tilted the swastika on a 45 degree angle?”
it was tilted to form an S for socialism
January 16th, 2010 at 11:45 pm.
Not to mention Federal Law Enforcement, if not your own State!
January 15th, 2010 at 3:23 am.
883. Marshall Lentini:
If you are the character out of Florida, DON’T PUSH YOUR LUCK!
We haven’t the slightest notion what you are rambling about. Perhaps you are in the wrong sandbox!
We suggest that you locate one more suited to your age and temperments.
Call us again, and you will learn just how powerful and quick the FCC can be!
THAT IS ALL!
NAE SECURITY
January 15th, 2010 at 3:22 am.
883. Marshall Lentini:
If you are the character out of Florida, DON’T PUSH YOUR LUCK!
We haven’t the slightest notion what you are rambling about. Perhaps you are in the wrong sandbox!
We suggest that you locate one more suited to your age and temperments.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:20 am.
See how it goes? Jew whirls in to verbally dominate the field of discourse. This officious Jew, by the way, has called me to threaten me with his “package” which, says him, he’s “forwarding” to the FCC, as though the FCC is an on-call police force for perpetually “offended” types like this.
Hey Jew, why hide behind the name “Native American”? why not yiddle for your own mythical martyrs?
January 14th, 2010 at 3:52 am.
RE: 881. Brian Smith said:
“…Ridiculous that we grant Hitler the victory of owning this ancient symbol….”
RESPONSE: Hitler never OWNED the Swastika. The German form, belonged to all Germans, and the German form did not belong to Hitler either: Hitler was an Austrian Jew. Austrians and Jews have their own symbols.
“…you might think about changing the header on your website. The font has military connotations, and it seems like your goal is to distance the swastika from such associations.”
RESPONSE: We (the Native American Embassy & Holocaust Council see nothing wrong with ReclaimTheSwastika.com’s Heading. Nor do we see any “Military” resemblance or anything Military whatsoever.
The Reclaim The Swastika website’s pages and Heading is fine just the way it is!
~ Chief Minister ThunderWolfe
January 14th, 2010 at 12:18 am.
Keep up the good work. Ridiculous that we grant Hitler the victory of owning this ancient symbol. However, you might think about changing the header on your website. The font has military connotations, and it seems like your goal is to distance the swastika from such associations.
January 13th, 2010 at 7:57 pm.
I, as a child, was somehow drawn to the geometric shape & “flow” of the Swastika symbol. It is a root to a painting that I made in my late teen’s, painted in 3 colors: Red, Black & White. . .
The Red & Black were from my perspective – - equal in their portrayal, Black = darkness, forboding & provoking thoughts of melancholy, the Red = dominance, anger, hatred & evil. The white, I intentionally portrayed as MUCH LESS in the picture. Reason being, as a troubled Lad, to me it was the failing image of the good of mankind. I believe is becoming so much harder to find because of our Human Condition that could potentially destroy not only ourselves, but also ANY realm in which we live.
This picture that I made, resembles the Swastika in the fact that it is very directional, flowing from inside out. Almost as if the Darkness & Hatred almost seemingly over-shadow the Light – - yet the good of mankind still hangs on, not to become extinct.
I was always heart-broken to know that the Nazi’s had turned this symbol that I was intrested in, into something associated with such hatred of other Cultures & Belief Systems.
Now that I’m 40 & an avid coin-collector – - I purchased a coin from W.W.-2 Germany, Swasitka & ALL. I wanted to OWN a piece of Hitler, as a show that YOU SIR are dead, your spirit beaten & all the negativity you once bred is now dead. It, to me, is owning HIM, my feeling as a bit of revenge for all that he has done to everyone around him.
I thank THIS SITE for helping ME to bring my Painting back to life & attempting to change the Swastika back to what it once stood for. And so as NOT to be remembered as a symbol of evil, but as a symbol of any people that overcome evil.
Be SAFE, Be WELL – - PEACE To ALL. . .
-Lone Wolf
January 13th, 2010 at 4:49 am.