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875. Casey said:
RE: 869. friedcod
All I have to say is you’re going to have ALOT of explaining to do if you want to wear that thing around.
Why else would you wear that around unless you believe in the principles?
Bizzare.
RESPONSE:
No explainations neccessary, only teaching what many are unaware!
Unable to address, “that thing” because it is unbeknownst what “that thing” is that you alude to.
Not so sure about the wearing it. That would depend on the culture! Personally, I would find it rather difficult, if not outright HEAVY, wearing a vase around, presuming that you could be aluding to the American Indian versions on Ancient and possibly not-so-ancient potery.
Bizzare? Very good description of the worl we live! Or, the people within, actually! Bizzare, is an understatement!
Morally & Spiritually Bankrupt, to say the least!
~ ThunderWolfe
Sorry about the repeat. I Thought I STOP’d it before it got out! Apparently, I was not quick enough.
~ ThunderWolfe
874. Premasagar said:
Just to make clear (since someone asked), when ThunderWolfe says “we”, he is not referring to the people who built ReclaimTheSwastika.com. Rather, he is giving points that he believes would be held by people who care about the swastika.
(ThunderWolfe, please correct me if I’m wrong)
RESPONSE: MOSTLY CORRECT!
I was not aware that my statements could be misread or misinterpreted as representing Reclaim The Swastka! Most sorry if we inadvertently caused that impression.
It was my aspiration to cause the complete revival of the Sawastika, in whatever shape or form and by whomever has held this symbol in high to sacred esteme for thousands of years, before I am sent home by the Creator (pass on to the next world)!
I should not have been, but was surprised to find your website advocating this already, although I should not have been since most everything I think or think of, either has already been thought of, someone is thinking about it, or someone is about to.
We all, here at the Embassy, are happy (thrilled) that you have taken this long overdue task! WE THANK YOU!
You have our complete support, as we know that we have yours. And, apparently, we are not alone! We have had very many responses, most very favorable, one discenter, and one “nut!” This is good!
Sorry if we were seen by any as being you! We presumed that using our NATIVE AMERICAN EMBASSY Signature, that the worl public woul know that we are two separate entities.
Now, as for, “….he is giving points that he believes would be held by people who care about the swastika.”
This one is not quite accurate. Yes, we are “giving points” as you say, but not that which we believe others might hold, or to those who “care” about the swastika. We do so to educate, especialy those who have been misled. I suppose that this would, rather, be a re-education.
There are many, who could care less about the Swastika. We hope to reach them, as well, and also gain their support, as well as their direct assistance.
Those who Hate the symbol. We hope to chang the opinions and attitudes of as many as we can, and quite justifiably, as you already know!
Regarding an older post of yours, you appologized for not being able to respond too often to your posters. Not to worry! We have your interests well at heart, because we share the same. We have you covered.
We invite you to correct us anytime you feel we have erred, or for whatever other reason there may be.
Walk in love, beauty, balance & harmony,
~ Minister ThunderWolfe
874. Premasagar said:
Just to make clear (since someone asked), when ThunderWolfe says “we”, he is not referring to the people who built ReclaimTheSwastika.com. Rather, he is giving points that he believes would be held by people who care about the swastika.
(ThunderWolfe, please correct me if I’m wrong)
RESPONSE: MOSTLY CORRECT!
I was not aware that my statements could be misread or misinterpreted as representing Reclaim The Swastka! Most sorry if we inadvertently caused that impression.
It was my aspiration to cause the complete revival of the Sawastika, in whatever shape or form and by whomever has held this symbol in high to sacred esteme for thousands of years, before I am sent home by the Creator (pass on to the next world)!
I should not have been, but was surprised to find your website advocating this already, although I should not have been since most everything I think or think of, either has already been thought of, someone is thinking about it, or someone is about to.
We all, here at the Embassy, are happy (thrilled) that you have taken this long overdue task! WE THANK YOU!
You have our complete support, as we know that we have yours. And, apparently, we are not alone! We have had very many responses, most very favorable, one discenter, and one “nut!” This is good!
Sorry if we were seen by any as being you! We presumed that using our NATIVE AMERICAN EMBASSY Signature, that the worl public woul know that we are two separate entities.
Now, as for, “….he is giving points that he believes would be held by people who care about the swastika.”
This one is not quite accurate. Yes, we are “giving points” as you say, but not that which we believe others might hold, or to those who “care” about the swastika. We do so to educate, especialy those who have been misled. I suppose that this would, rather, be a re-education.
There are many, who could care less about the Swastika. We hope to reach them, as well, and also gain their support, as well as their direct assistance.
Those who Hate the symbol. We hope to chang the opinions and attitudes of as many as we can, and quite justifiably, as you already know!
Regarding an older post of yours, you appologized for not being able to respond too often to your posters. Not to worry! We have your interests well at heart, because we share the same. We have you covered.
We invite you to correct us anytime you feel we have erred, or for whatever other reason there may be.
Walk in love, beauty, balance & harmony,
~ Minister ThunderWolfe
RE: 869. friedcod
All I have to say is you’re going to have ALOT of explaining to do if you want to wear that thing around.
Why else would you wear that around unless you believe in the principles?
Bizzare.
Just to make clear (since someone asked), when ThunderWolfe says “we”, he is not referring to the people who built ReclaimTheSwastika.com. Rather, he is giving points that he believes would be held by people who care about the swastika.
(ThunderWolfe, please correct me if I’m wrong)
ERROR:
Symbols are not ever, nor can they be, nor will ever be.
People are evil, not the symbols they use in the course thereof.
Be well,
~ ThunderWolfe
CORRECTED:
Symbols are not EVIL, nor can they be, nor will ever be.
People are evil, not the symbols they use in the course thereof.
Be well,
~ ThunderWolfe
868. Casey said:
“…..OR, are you trying to imply the extermination of our sacred Native Americans was done under some Christian flag or are you speaking of the inquisition and the crusades (which were committed 700-1000 years ago). And lest we forget the insane holy wars between the Christians and the Catholics. I’m lost there. …..”
ANSWER: ALL OF THE ABOVE!
Note: We neither condone, support, nor advocate the trashing of any culture’s symbols, crusifix or otherwise. We were merely making an appropriate point.
Symbols are not ever, nor can they be, nor will ever be.
People are evil, not the symbols they use in the course thereof.
Be well,
~ ThunderWolfe
I think this is the time to reclaim the true meaning of the swastika. Many people right now associate the swastika with the Nazis. One day I showed my mom a swastika I made from Popsicle sticks. I told her that I made it for good luck and I also told her not to always associate this symbol with evil. It is an innocent symbol that became guilty because of misuse by racists and by those who are hungry for power. I even read the article of the bag with swastikas. The English lady who bought it was unaware of the presence of the swastikas until someone told her of them. She became angry and complained about the bag. I noticed (based on the pictures) that the bag was of Indian design, and normally swastikas appear because they are part of the Indian culture. I then concluded that she has no knowledge of the origins and the true meaning of the symbol despite the fact that she likes Indian-designed bags. She immediately associated it with the evil of Nazism. To this lady, I will say it to you right now what I told my mother days ago: DO NOT ALWAYS ASSOCIATE THE SWASTIKA WITH THE NAZIS!
To the moderator of this website: You are right in telling us to reclaim this symbol. We all know that the swastika is associated with evil, but you had the courage to present the swastika in a positive light. For that I congratulate you! I am with you in this!
btw its this medal
http://www.angelfire.com/nj/ww2/germancross.html
“War Order of the German Cross”
hmm, ive been thinking; i have this german medal that my grandpa took from a guy he killed, its a very ornate one.
im thinking of wearing it.
because, of the good luck and such.
and because its sorta like a trophy, to say my blood has helped conquer them, and its like wearing a necklace of your enemy’s teeth for example.
its a medal some nazi held dear, and now an american wears it for the good luck charm.
also, you could say its my best jewelry, the medal is worth about $3000
lol im worried id have to explain it to everyone though… or be labeled a neonazi.
but for real.. my logic makes so much sense!
THUNDERWOLFE: “Does this mean that it is “Too Soon” for outlawing as an EVIL symbol, the Christian Cross (Crucifix) that was used during the extermination of tens of millions?”
ME: I don’t want anything “outlawed”. I am not into censorship. I’m a firm supporter of the First Amendment.
OR, are you trying to imply the extermination of our sacred Native Americans was done under some Christian flag or are you speaking of the inquisition and the crusades (which were committed 700-1000 years ago). And lest we forget the insane holy wars between the Christians and the Catholics. I’m lost there.
THUNDERWOLFE: “Does it mean that after it reaches the right time (whenever that may be) the Christian Crucifix will eventually be known and treated as Evil rather than those Evil Parties that utilized it during their mass murders?”
ME: Obviously, I think all genocide is wrong, and I think it’s unfair to compare the intentional wiping out of ones ethnicity with someone else’s. It hurts whether it was 10 million or 10.
BTW, My mom was Jewish and my dad was Catholic and I am an atheist. Go figure.
No comment to my second post I wrote?
PAX
RE: 864. Casey said:
Find a new symbol. It’s too damn soon.
RESPONSE: Does this mean that it is “Too Soon” for outlawing as an EVIL symbol, the Christian Cross (Crucifix) that was used during the extermination of tens of millions?
Does it mean that after it reaches the right time (whenever that may be) the Christian Crucifix will eventually be known and treated as Evil rather than those Evil Parties that utilized it during their mass murders?
~ ThunderWolfe
I agree with Casey. In the Wiccan religion it is a symbol of protection and power, that is EXACTLY why Hitler used it. He was into eclectic spiritualism. I think it is way passed time to “wash it clean” of the old memories and try to get the negative energy away from it.
Oh, I just wanted to add I know this is a sacred symbol to some (at least here in the States). In the East, it was never taken away. It’s still actively used. I think that’s great.
I say this because I am a teacher and I used to have a Tibetan flag up in my room. Do you know how many horrified parents I had coming to me? They don’t care or seem to understand it is a sacred symbol, and I got sick of teaching them. I even had my principal in to see what the ruckus was about. Thank goodness he understood but asked me to remove it anyway.
Now, it was one symbol among many on the flag. How the little buggers could even see them is beyond me, but it’s just not worth it here.
People still have a real sore taste in their mouth when it comes to this. If you’re seen with one, the rumor mill goes crazy (whether you deserve it or not).
They all think we’re Nazi’s which is really funny since I’m Jewish and I had a whole section of my family wiped out from a-holes wearing that horrible flag. My great-grandma was in Dachau and she still had that damn tattoo on her arm til the day she died.
I would rather come up with some other symbol that doesn’t offend anyone (rightfully or not). It is a little soon. I mean my grandpa was in WWII. It wasn’t that long ago in the scheme of things.
Pax!
Find a new symbol. It’s too damn soon.
RE: 862. paschkebb said:
i am a nazi
RESPONSE:
So? WHAT’s YOUR POINT?
i am a nazi
NATIVE AMERICAN EMBASSY
SACRED SYMBOLS RECLAMATION COUNCIL
http://www.nativeamericanembassy.net/
RE:
860. Snoop2010
WELL SAID SNOOP!
~ Chief Minister ThunderWolfe (Von Noaker)
To say that a symbol, of any kind is the reason for a war I believe is wrong. I am a Christian person and I feel deeply saddened by what happened in Nazi Germany during the war but to ban a symbol that existed well before it’s misuse in Nazi Germany I believe is also sad. I run a Christian motorcycle group in my church and I have skulls custom painted on my motorcycle. The skull is considered by many to be a sign of evil. Does this make me evil? I don’t think so. The Christian crusaders had the symbol of the cross on their shields and garments and killed tens of thousands of innocent people. Should the cross too be banned from use? The crusades were founded on this same blind adherence to pre-conceived notions and rules. Religious zealots wanted the Christian public to blindly follow what they said was right and true with no questions asked. When good people asked reasonable questions that conflicted with what the religious leaders believed they were branded as blasphemers and burned a the stake. I believe it would be a real shame to take that many steps backwards again. Good is stronger than any symbol and I believe it’s a mistake to think that the symbol is the thing itself. For instance, a symbol of a cross is not God any more than the swastika is evil or bad. It’s simply a symbol. It cannot hate or hurt, harm or mask the truth. Only PEOPLE can do that.