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i love the sign of the swastika and all that it REALLY represents. the true meaning peace, harmony, good luck and well being. ( not hitler’s BS). i think he has no power and never really had any power over a simbol that existed WAY before he was even born. hitler was nothing but a mess. as a matter of fact am thinking about getting a tattoo of the swastika. AND I REALLY DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK OR SAY. I KNOW I AM ALOT MORE EDUCATED. LETS REDEEM AND RECLAIM BACK THE SIGN OF GOOD.
The Swastika is a beautiful emblem that must not be allowed to be hijacked by the terrible crimes of WWII commited by Hitler and his Henchmen!!! It truly is a symbol of Truth, Good luck and Hope for the future. Sadly though people seem to know much more about the sickening Nazis than they do about the wonderful and meaningful history of the Swastika that spans over 5000 years of the History of this planet. I wear a Swastika lapel Pin on the collar of my jacket. I wear it because I feel good about it. Peace to you all my friends
whoops I forgot to sighn my name,I posted comment#757
on this website is says that the swastica facing the direction that is commonly associated with the nazi party of germany durring war war 2 (or the clockwise swastica as I think of it)is a positive symbol that brings victory where as the counter-clockwise “swastica” is a negative symbol that brings “total annihilation”…
surely this is a symbolism associated with certain cultures,
I was under the impression that the the clocwise swastica was a symbol for “strength and knowledge” which are relativly neutral aspects and make sense with the nazi war machine of world war 2,where as the counter-clockwise “swatica” symbolizes “love and compassion” 2 aspects most would not associate with the nazis, and is actually called “dharma” and not “swastica”
refugees are only a scam of illuminati.
illuminati creates their satanic new world order with the help of chaos created by immigartion.
islam, drugs, violence, ‘terror’ , etc.
patriots are labeled racists, etc.
it’s bullshit
pakolaisuus on huijausta
se on vain illuminaatti petos
jolla luodaan uusi maailmanjärjestys
kaaos, jolla saadaan uusi maailmanjöärjestys.
http://www.wethepeople.la/ciadrugs.htm
Suomalaisten joukkotuhonta meneillään,
holocaust of finns is happening now?
suorittajana Vanhasen nazi-Bilderberg-EU-hallitus?
our nazi-EU-government of Vanhanen is doing it?
Omia kansalaisia syrjitään, tuhotaan?
Finns are oppressed in their own country?
Kristillisiä vihaavilla ja epädemokraattisilla voimilla täytetään Suomeamme?
Anti-christian immigration fills Finkland.?
http://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/node/8160170
Kaaos on tämä saatanan natsi vallan eräs kikka , jolla vaientaa massat. Satanic nazi-power uses chaos as a method of control, and silence the masses?
Ettekö näe? -
meille ei anneta työtä.We are not given jobs.
rahamme heivataan pitkin maailmaa… Our money is given to other races…
työpaikat lopetetaan…Finland has no jobs anymore for finns…
karhut ja sudet jouksee pitkin maaseutua terrorisoimassa, muusta puhumattakaan, suomalaisia kyykytettän sossuissa ja byrokratialla, There is now beasts living in finnish forests, which we had not before…and finns are oppressed by idiotic byrocracy…communism…
työttömille psyykepillereitä jotka tuhoaa ihmisen…Finns ar e given psychiatric pills, instead of jobs or financial support…
natsien joukkotuhonta on käynnissä, ja suomen kansaa tuhotaan?…
Holocaust is happening in Finland now…
EU-holocaust?
Vapaamuurari-fasismi tappaa?
freemason fascism kills?
Vapaamuurarit maailmanlaajuisesti toimii salassa ja korruptoi maailmaa? freemasons operate
internationally and corrupt the world?
Tähän asti enemmänkin talousrikollisuutta korruption muodossa, mutta yhä enemmän siirtymässä ottamaan KAIKEN VALLAN maailmassa? They ar e moving from financial crimes aND CORRUPTION TO more violence, etc.?
Yhteistyössä satanistien ja natsien kanssa? Co-operating with satanists and nazis?
facts-Tuossa
tietoa:
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/
Suomalaiset ajetaan alas, ja uusi eliitti on jo täällä valmiina? immigrants are new elite of finland in EU?
Vapaamuurarien epäkristillinen eliitti? Elite of freemasonic anti-christian people?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvWMLAWrEjU
Hi there!
Too bad the debate is only focusing on racism/zionism and one of the darkest days of european story.
As several people said before we’d better focus on the present and by extend our future. We shouldn’t give too much a damn about what happened before as it happened. It’s done.
There are currently awful things going on everywhere around the globe and we simply don’t give a shit about these. Oh yeah, I understand that we’d better be chasing a bunch of dickheads who are trying to form a new reich in their parents garage under a nazi flag they bought on ebay.
Wake up! This symbol as been misused and we’d better share its original and positive value than make it a symbol of hate.
You want to teach your children how horrible was WWII or do you want to raise them with good values and respect ?
One won’t lead them to commit massacre, guess which.
ok fair enough 751 but i will not have you misrepresent my intentions by saying i am hideing behiend this project as some kind of protection.
it is untrue and really not fair.
i’ll remove myself from this whole subjet.
but i did not start this.
thank you for your time.
best wishes and peace be onto you all.
i agree with comment 420 except this is part of it.
you are happy with the status quo.we don’t accept it.
it means what it means.
the history channel does not own it.
this isn’t a home for a few random oppinions.this is an ongoing dialog.
thats life.
thank you.you are super well spoken.but this is positive more so than the likes of the pro and con obama health care weirdos or anyother myopic point of view.
peace be onto you and everyone and thank you for letting me have my say on this project.
peace to you and yours. i understand the desire to post such a link to this site as a sort of disclaimer in such an unenlightened age. some of you are probably having to defend yourself on this point far more often than you care to. but i must tell you, the national socialists were not estranged from the essence of that holy, solar symbol. if anyone in the history of mankind has earned the right to use that symbol, i believe it is those who live, fight, and die in its service. history is merely the victor’s story, as you know. there is another side where much has been overlooked. the vanquished have no voice. the fact is, hitler was no more a “racial supremacist” than tenzin gyatso– however inconvenient. sixty-odd years has obscured the truth, but not suffocated it. during the 1920s, the dalai lama was thutpen gyatso, as you may know. he was a scholar of impressive intellect who sought to achieve a balance between western technology and eastern spirituality. he had heard about hitler when the n.s. movement was still struggling for authority in the chaos of those times. among the many european books the dalai lama had translated was hitler’s “mein kampf”… he filled his copy with enthusiastic annotations and underlining of his favourite passages on virtually every page. of hitler he said, “the inji (honourable foreigner) is assisted by god for some high purpose in this life.” he also believed there to be a synchronicity for the swastika being the symbol of both n.s. and the ancient bon-buddhism of his warrior monks. also noted were certain similarities between n.s. and buddhist doctrines, especially that service to one’s folk is the highest purpose or dharma in life. therefore when hitler became chancellor in 1933 warm congratulations were received from far off tibet. now, ask yourself why we’d never read that in a system school book in the united states or much of europe? if the national socialists are nothing more than “intolerant white supremacists” who wanted to conquer the world and kill all non-blonde haired and blue-eyed individuals (absurd, really), then why were their primary allies japanese and italian (non european in the first case, and surely non-nordic in the second)? most people are unaware that both muslims, hindus, a minority of jews, and buddhists enlisted as volunteers in the ss, or that hundreds of tibetan monks in ss uniform were found by the soviets in the fall of berlin in full ss uniform, having fought to the last man (the tibetans were part of the ss cossack regiment). these facts don’t mesh well with the system version of history.
last thoughts in the form of three quotes: one from a hindu. one from a buddhist. one from a national socialist. “i’m for a multi-racial world in which each race keeps to itself, in harmony with the other races. like in a garden, you have flowerbeds of roses and flowerbeds of carnations and irises and different other flowers. they don’t ‘intermarry’. they preserve their distinction, and each one has its own unique beauty.” – savitri devi. speaking at the 1993 chicago conference on world religions, tenzin gyatso (the dalai lama) said that the boundaries separating different peoples across the world were not bad if they preserved and defined genetic and cultural identities. he stated these differences need to be maintained in order that the individual have his own sense of identity. tenzin is totally opposed to one worldism, saying of the internationalists, “they fail to see that the so-called ‘cultural diversity’ they claim to admire would vanish in a one world system. no– true ‘cultural diversity’ values the different material and spiritual achievements of a people uniquely different from all others on the planet. therefore it cannot exist without the barriers which separate and identify culture from culture.” and lastly, “i assure you i am quite free from all racial hatred. it is, in any case, undesirable that one race should mix with other races. except for a few gratuitous successes, which i am prepared to admit, systematic cross-breeding has never produced good results. its desire to remain racially pure is a proof of the vitality and good health of a race. pride in one’s own race — and that does not imply contempt for other races — is also a normal and healthy sentiment. i have never regarded the chinese or japanese as being in any way inferior to ourselves. they belong to ancient civilizations, and i admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. they have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. indeed, i believe the more steadfast the chinese and the japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier i shall find it to get along with them.” -adolf hitler. the secret history of the second world war is that it was about blood and spirit against gold and corrupt materialism. if you want to understand why a bloody world war was waged, read up on the economic reforms which took place under hitler and consider who exactly was inconvenienced by such a reform: the international bankster gangsters. read up on benjamin freedman (a jew himself, who had spoken out against zionism and the federal reserve and the treaty of versailles). germany was decimated and occupied for the very same reason that a man like lincoln was assassinated. every reformer is offed. and for the record, j.f.k. opposed zionist nuclear facilities at dimona, and look what happened to him. notice how l.b.j. then reversed all of kennedy’s policies toward the zionist occupation regime in palestine and tripled their funding and weaponry like a good little lapdog. man, real germans have gotten a bad rap. and people who tap into what they were onto are really judged harshly and unfairly. behind every historical “devil” lies some truth, some redeeming, liberating principle which the establishment has sought to suppress. it’s been going on for thousands of years. people can’t seem to think about any of this above emotional attachment…
we can do nothing about the past…but let’s make the future brighter.let’s all stand together as one and smash the numbskulls.let’s respect culture.
godbless and peace.
a.a.n.f.
I meet here nice people like the Indian person with his eastern good philosophy,like the swedish person and others who want to contribute for a better world.I like especially the budhist replier who like all budhists are is tollerant .I am now a non-believer but I am glad that many persons find comfort in a religion,because they need to be supported in this way.For the rest I refer to my posts here :nr 741 and very much to post nr 745.Some reactions??
The other things to consider are :-
1. We always remember brutality more and for longer and forget the kindness of the people around us very quickly.
2. Symbols have no meanings but our mind has the ability to make meanings from them.
3. We can form symbols by ourselves but it’s meaning will be different for each of us as it depends upon how we look at a symbol.
Pictures can be taken as first representation of our thoughts but yet the meaning of pictures are different for different people.
I mean to say that our nature is the biggest hurdle since most of people want to believe in Nazi symbol rather than the true meaning of symbol of “Swastika”.
Well… Congratulations for the site as it represents many beliefs about a single symbol :-
1. Firstly i would like to say that every person should be able to neglect which he hates. I am a hindu but i am actually an atheist and hence i don’t care about religious beliefs but can do you know any other symbol with so much meanings as “Swastika”.
2. Secondly I am very attached to symbol not only because it has holy importance in our community but also because i like it, i never remember Hitler with it.
3. Sorry to say but it’s wrong to say that only western countries have lost during world war II, we send our men with britishers as at that time our territory was under the rule of britishers. To know more visit :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_in_World_War_II
Remember that we lost too but we have forgiveness.
4. I am sorry to say but the people blaming a symbol that it reminds them of Adolf Hitler is utter foolishness as mind can only remind something which we want to remind through it. Why not ban ‘Adolf hitler’s’ History rather than banning a symbol which is related to so many people in so many ways.
5. How can you ban human nature just because one of us was a liar, cheater which was Adolf Hitler.
Please try to redeem yourself from the after-effcts of Adolf Hitler. I hope that the people will understand and will forget about Hitler and will accept the “Swastika” in its true nature i.e. love, purity, happiness, hope, luck and may we get the strength to look beyond our weaknesses.
Dewulf!
I dont think you should compare Ghandi and M.L. KIng. Watch the widio about the religion first before you see part three.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7362450282309249591&hl=no
King was not realy what you seem.think he was!
To Mr.Bernt from Sweden:
Thank you for your extraordinary reaction.I agree totaly with the content.I am NOT a supporter of any doctrine.I am looking and searching after explination “about Hitler and others in History”and try to make conclusions.The video you recommended is not only explaining the love of power but gives the world the knowledge that this world is governed by international bankers who are supported by corrupt presidents for who war is money-big money!Power indeed corrupts!In this video the makers explain very good what I was concluding for myself:international bankers are far to be considered human.The video shows very clear that all wars were provoced by international banker US president supporters. Like Roosevelt who provoced the Japanese so badly that they attacked Pearl Harbour.When I think on all those patrottic innocents and victims of the war who gave their lives for serving the international bankers I become furious.When I read in the video that the Tonkin incedent that was at the origin of the Vietnam war never happened and was only a pretext to start the war in Vietnam only again in the interest of international bankers…And now we all know that president Bush started the Iraq war after 9/11 with again the false pretext that Iraq was guilty….AND SO ON…Hitlers IG Farben was supported by US bankers too…If now we should discover that those corrupt bankers were Jewish then we should come to the atrocious conclusion that this corrupt people killed their own people in their money interest…In this forum the SWASTIKA finaly brings us to the truth and the sign gives all human people hope and hapiness…I was happy to view the peace loving persons like Ghandy,M.L.King and John Lennon.THIS VIDEO HAS TO BE VIEWED BY ALL MANKIND!
On another day I will react on the other video recommended by Mr.Bernt from Sweden
As a Buddhist myself, I too agree with all others Indo-Europeans which included Chinese, Hinduism, Jainism and all other cultures and religions to reclaim the very ancient sacred symbol of peace and prosperity that transcend our cultures to it’s rightful place in our culture’s history. And educate the contemporaries about the truth of the swastika from the slumber caused by Nazi’s nightmare.
If Medieval Europeans had the renaissance of their religion and culture that changed and shaped their societies to what they are now, then why not us, the cultures and societies that the symbol itself is as sacred as the heaven.
Look at this movie and you will in the end understand the origan of the Swastika
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7362450282309249591&hl=no
Dewulf!
The fal of comunism is well and good, but do you realy think tha New World order is going to be better?
Swastika has been used by so many nations that is hard to say where the origin is, but it all relates to the worshipping of the sun. Christianaty is also related to the same as one of the myths.
Please look at this movie and you will see what I mean.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4104851170462978605
In my article 740 I forgot to mention Mr Gorbatsjov,the last USSR leader who did what had to be done:abolish communism.For me he is one of those real HEROES.Now the East European countries have a much better future thanks to Gorbatsjov. (Poland,Hungary,Roumenia,Bulgaria,Estland,Letland,Litauen,Oekrania,Moldavia,..Even Russia I think can become a member of Europe(why not,this people suffered enough through their so sad history…
I am a convinced European and I hope Europe brings hapiness for all people in this world.
(I have a dream too Mr Martin Luther King)