And tomorrow is the 69 aniversary of British declaration of war to the nazis, for show then how’s the free world with agresors.
Long life to the British Army!
Blooson, I have swastikas on my collectable WWII German uniforms because they are part of them. Whether they are viewed as good, bad, or indifferent, the swastika is just a geometric design. The East does not have an exclusive claim to the swastika, nor any other part of the world or any religion. No one knows when the first one was scrawled with a burnt stick on some rock or an opponent’s forehead. I could claim I invented punctuation marks and therefore demand royalty payments from the entire Earth’s population.
Perhaps it is time to cleanse the Swastika of its negative connotations and liberate it from its association with the Nazis.
As many have pointed out the Swastika is an ancient spiritual symbol that has been in existance for thousands of years and can be found engraved on the walls and floors of Buddhist and Hindu temples as well as churches in parts Asia and Europe. It is a symbol that unites races and religions.
Nazi swastikas are black, not red, or blue, or plaid. What is with all of the Hindu stuff? Hindus think their dead uncle is a beaver, or some deformed child is a god. The U.S. Navy has a building that is a swastika. And guess what? Somebody saw it on Goggle Earth and whined about it. Now, with my tax dollars, the building will be changed so the whinybutts will shut up.
Well that is a mirrored western swastika or the swastika you are using as your page banner.
I must also say that a red swastika which turns counterclockwise and is a mirror projection of the swastika you are using, stems out of the Hindhu culture.
The blue one who is also mirrored and turns counterclockwise, that stems out of the Tibetan Bön culture which has its roots about 18.000 years ago…..
So the Nazi cross is a red one and shows the copy out of the Hindhu culture.
Furter copied out of the Hindhu cultur, done by the German spiritual lady adviser from Hitler is the word Arier.
Arier is derived from the Sanskrit word Aryan and this means great. Herewith is meant the greatness of the Brahmins. These Brahmins have blue eyes and blond hair. These are the Aryans of the Vedas. So Hitler thought with the help of his female spiritual advisor that the Germans would be the source of the Brahmins.
Further do the Brahmins speak an Indo-German language. This is indeed for Europeans easier to study then Chinese.
That all was for Hitler a motivation to make war on an ideological base.
Mussolini did the same in relation with the Roman empire and Hirohito, well he was anyway a God King and could do everything he liked.
These were some more detailed explanations regarding the Swastika in relation to the western world use of the ancient powerfull blue skies symbol.
Kalden, the emblem of the U.S. 45th Infantry Division was, from 1923 to 1940, a red right-pointing swastika on a yellow diamond. Both ways are found in American Indian history and societies. The 45th changed its symbol in 1940 because of the Nazis. Today it is a red Thunderbird and the smaller 45th Infantry Brigade is headquartered in Oklahoma as the Oklahoma Army National Guard, though a lot of them are in Iraq right now. Swastikas have been pointed both ways in many countries for many years. Who knows, there might be cave paintings somewhere with swastikas. Hmmm…Nazi neanderthals.
There is something to say about your banner e.a. logo.
When the swastika is right turned this means in fact the nazi cross.
The ancient Hindhu and Tibetan Bön swastika cross is to the left turning.
The swatika is the symbol of eternity.
The swatika describes with its left turning the way the palnets turn.
The Swastika means in the Bön history of aboyt 18.000 years YUNG DRUNG.
Because Bön deals with ultimate Wisdom is this Wisdom eternal and symbolyzed by the Swastika or Yung Drung or in the Bön language Mu Drung. With last mentioned Mu Drung is: Mu = sky and drung = eternal
P.s.I saw the reply of a Jewish person. he might maybe upset because your emblem or banner figures the anzi cross, because it is a right turning cross. Like i told are the religious crosses used in Tibetan Bön Buddhism and in Hindhu culture, left turning swastikas.
My, hasn’t this subject veered off into sniping and innuendo. It’s just a geometric design. What if they had used a hexagon? So much for bolt heads.
But, if controversy is required by some just to get a rise with an unrelated subject, here is a note from 8-year old Kurt Hoffstedter of Munich in 1943:
Dear Mister Himmler,
please don’t kill all of the kikes. I like to fly them.
To my dear Lev Abramovich:
you’re too stupid to be talking like this. It’s not a “nazi cross” you idiot. And this site is about a symbol with thousands of years older than the nazis and concentration fields or jews themselves. How can you be such an idiot? Either you’re a cultureless jew or just a sutpid guy with internet and nothing to do. Long live the swastika, symbol of good luck and prosperity. Death to stupid idiots and nazis! Circumsized kisses to you all! *****
I stumbled onto this website while researching the origins of the Nazi cross for a college class.
I am saddened by people who still are so dumb that they think the “jews” run the world.
You all just cant accept that there are jews in many different countries, who are all different races, and several of them are very successful. They are successful because they worked hard, and are smart!!!!
Try it sometime. Hopefully you too are smart!
And, From what I gather, isnt this site supposed to be for people to try and restore the peaceful, and WISE meaning of the original Swastika?
I cant believe how many STUPID people are on this site! I have seen countless people say that the holocaust was a lie, and then even more people not say one word about it!
How could the holocaust be a lie, if there were 19 concentration camps across europe, 7 DEATH camps across europe (devoted SOLELY to INCINERATING all of its visitors),
and many labor camps as well.
Over 30 camps total, devoted to sacrifice….not to mention, that the population of Polands jews went from much over 3 million, to less than 100,000!!!
Then, add the countless other jews, the Russian jews. the Hungarian jews, the german jews. Even Greek and Danish jews were killed.
There are COUNTLESS VIDEO TAPEs of Countless camps being Liberated, with PILES of bodies, containing hundreds of thousands of people, and that is only from the last couple DAYS of the war! Use COMMON SENSE!!!!
This isnt some conspiracy!!! Many different countries had soldiers with film, photographs, and written accounts of these atrocites. Not to mention, the several german documents detailing the plans. And, the many nazi officials who ADMITTED these atrocities.
Oh, and I almost forgot, we have the actual REMAINS of over 30 HUGE camps, devoted to housing thousands of prisoners, and then cowardly proceeding to gas and burn them.
Dont you get it????
They had to build STOVES in order to BURN THE CORPSES. THAT IS HOW MANY WERE KILLED.
Do you get it now???? Kill twenty people. Mass grave. Kill 500,000 people at one camp over four year? You have to proceed to Incinerate them. WHich is what the Nazi scum DID. Now, add up ALL of the death camps, and youve got 6 million EASY.
You want to be CONSERVATIVE???? 5.5 million is being ridiculously conservative.
You can fill up a book with the SS cowardice. The eisenstazgruppen would kill THOUSANDS of slavic jews in russia, and even slavic christians, for no other reason than these soldiers were brainwashed into believing that the people were scum.
In germany and hungary and otehr countries, The SS had several ambulances, which were air-sealed, and had a big red cross on the back. These big vans would drive up to groups of native villagers, and ask them if anyone wants to go and work, and be fed. Then, the ones who got in, would be driven around a corner, and gassed, in the rear of the van.
LOOK IT UP. There are many pictures, and testimonies, which are obviously authentic. I enjoy the neo-nazi who OWNS UP to what their idols did in WW2. At least those neo-nazis have BALLS.
OH, and the Swastika is NOT a WHOLLY GERMANIC OR NORDIC SYMBOL. How many artifacts must be found all over the earth for you dumb neo-nazis to accept this? It is YOU who are sub-human!
Richey and Pete:
I agree with you too, everybody in the world need a change of goverment, but I hope that came without violence.
The better way could be the education, and that’s a very hard task.
Hope we can do that together.
That’s the spirit of the Swastika’s people.
Toi, toi, toi !
Richey, I agree whole heartedly with you. All you and your fellow countrymen need to do is what we did with the same government you are under now. The question is: Do enough of you have the bolox to actually do it? It’s a big move, but the only alternative is continued slavery. Then again, you are unarmed and therefore any action would be moot. We kept the Germans from doing this to England. We didn’t know the British government would do the same thing years later. Sorry. It’s up to you (England) to make your destiny what you will of it. I hope you prevail.
We need Reinvention, A new flag. We need a new meaning. A new way of the old ways! We need to put all the best ideas together and use them. If any negative stuff comes along we need to come together and communicate with the person or people to find a positive outcome for all concerned.
Today in the uk and alot of europe people are sick and tired with being messed around by their governments and councils. Most of the partys are corrupt to the core. People need to unite and do something about it. One day soon the day will come when people will say NO MORE.
I love swastikas! They give the illusion of rotation, but they are standing still. They’re like old school spinners! But I’m not a Hindu or even religious at all. I’m white and I feel that it is a symbol of my heritage and it connects me with other white people. I don’t want to kill the jews but when I see a swastika it makes me feel proud that I am white.
We have only one revolution to our credit and it was our own. We have tried to stay out of other people’s wars (Norway was pussy enough to be taken by the Germans) but, we helped get them out of your country anyway. We have been either dragged into foreign wars since 1812 or were attacked and did something about it. Americans don’t like war. We like going on with our daily lives and not messing with goofballs who have nothing better to do than interupt normal people. I’m guessing you are fairly young and watch too much left-wing TV. We have nothing to do with Nazis, except putting them out of business.
And just what is “bad” about having an eagle as our national symbol? The eagle is a symbol of majesty and strength, which this nation possesses. What is your’s, a walrus, or maybe an icicle? On top of all that, you are illiterate.
jadroe, you must be jocking.
The country you are talking of is not a country but an empire. It has prodused more conflicts, wars and revolutions than any other empire in the world.
I wish they never use the Swasita , it is bad anough that they use the eagle.
In a society like the one that is present in the U.S. today, would it even be possible to enlighten people to the true meaning of the Swastika?
This society is so media fed, and who controls the media? The same people that don’t want to let go of the recent past, the recent past compared to how old the Swastika is.
Such a great country, one that really does produce a lot of good, but there is just this hint of common sense missing, the drive to “know” beyond the media, to think outside of the tube.
If the cultures that used the Swatsika as a positive symbol also had a God, then I wish that this God would appear and educate the closed minded, and do away with the upholding of the wrong images that people have of this ancient ideogram.
It seems to me that the human body is a converter- the perfect tool for transforming energies that pass through us. all energies that pass through the human body or are generated by the human body should be converted to positive, beautiful energy that resembles light as opposed to darkness.
This symbol as become dark and it creates darkness in the hearts of people who look at it now.
it must be converted to light- so that light is its only creation.
I saw a Chinese Mauser years ago that had many swastikas stamped all over it. I asked the dealer what they were about and he said the swastika was, and is, a popular good luck symbol in China. One time I drew an electrical schematic and then noticed that four of the wires looked like a swastika. I didn’t change it. Some people whine too much about nothing. It’s just a geometric design. The next thing you know, someone will want to ban circles because people throw up if they spin around too much or, squares because they impart being “enclosed” and therefore anti-social. We musn’t forget the mentally impared (like those who freak out about swastikas).
You can still find plenty of swastikas in the Southwest of America because the Indians use it for all sorts of things. I saw a wrench a few years ago that was made in Chicago in the 1920s and the company logo was a swastika. Whine, whine, whine.
That, about the armenian swastika is really interesthing… have you photos or something about that?
The Swastika is a beauty, the nazis are idiots.
Sieg Heil, und Sieg Berg!!!!
Live long and prosper!
the jews are the ones who tried to vilify and ban the swastika, let us not leave that point out. the national socialists used it for the same reasons you do.
“Swastika” ideogram is an ancient symbol depicted by plenty in Armenian Highlands, dating back
to 20-15,000 years BC. Armenians call the symbol Astica. The prefix “Ast” stands for
Almighthy. Ast.vads in Armenian means God, the sufix “ads” means: who gives birth to [energy].
Torquemada:
You must be one of those who believe in the inquisiciòn like the method for make good catholic slaves.
The inquisitors are criminals.
I hope you can learn a little bit more about the Swastika.
Your catholic cross is a torture instrument.
live long and prosper!
You must be one of those that believe in the Mumbo Jumbo of Christianity.
Hakekors has been around before they even where considering making that fairytale.
¿Cual profanación? Están dándole demasiada importancia a la cruz cristiana, la cual en realidad no es otra cosa que un instrumento de tortura.
Además, al simpático “torquemada”, para que fuera “una profanación”, la cruz cristiana tendría que haber sido equilátera… y no lo es.
El verdadero símbolo del cristianismo fue el PEZ luego la iglesia romana -que no es cristiana-, eligió el simbolo de tortura romano como su insignia y en nombre de ese instrumento de tortura los católicos, no los cristianos, masacraron a millones mediante la inquisición, las cruzadas, etc.
Así que ¿cual profanación?!!
La Swastika es un símbolo dinámico, de acción y bondad… la cruz de los católicos es estática, significa dolor y muerte.
Hackcross (Hakenkreuz) is profanation of Christian Cross done by breaking its beams in half on middle of each beam radiating from crossing point. Because of this, hackcross should be totally banned.
Mr.Castillo:
Realmente todo se reduce a una cuestión de interpretación.
Son las personas las que hacen las cosas buenas o malas, como también es de las personas el concepto de bien y mal.
La Swastika, como se ha dicho muchas veces, es signo de bienaventuranza, es antigua y dinámica, los nazis la ensuciaron y los creyentes en “satanismos” le adjudicaron una dualidad buena o mala según la dirección en la cual se supone “gira”, pero eso es una tontería.
Si desea conocer algo mas al respecto, busque en el website del periodico Voces mi artículo sobre la Swastika y verá el profundo significado que esta tuvo para las culturas ancestrales de México y tiene ahora para grupos de montaña como el Edelweiß Gruppe Mexiko.
Atentamente.
H.Chavarría
I say that people that want to do evil or bad things always steal from God the beautiful things to devalue them and cause confusion. It is always in the eyes of the beholder and their perception. I have always loved the rainbow and when I learned it had sinister meanings was told to take it off my truck. No, I know what it means to me. That is all that matters. The swastika is what you believe it to be. As humans we tend to forget that God made all things good. Man in his choices and rebellion chooses to make things evil. The Confederate Flag to me is beautiful yet it offends others. I see it as part of history and not as a race symbol. People need to let things go, :its a bag of Cheetos”, let it go and get another one.
For sure Bernt:
The representation of Swastika as the sun, came from the cultures of south, like Moches and Quechua. In the north cultures, like Maya and Mexica, is a polar symbol and that’s the way as he was always used.
The movement (aparent) of the Polar Bear around the North Star.
Bernt you are correct with the rest, but never the direction have a significance of good or evil like some people want to believe…
In fact, the mayan Swastika is a double one… and have the same value.
That’s the way we on the Edelweiß use them on the mountains.
Lo que resultó muy claro fue su nivel ¿cultural?, Uds. son de esas personas, arrimadas a la limosna gringa quienes para empezar no hablan ni inglés ni español…
Preguntan algo de jardín de niños y cuando se les responde correctamente, su ignorancia les lleva a sentirse ofendidos (sintiendo que les dijeron satanistas), bueno esa es una premisa de la estulticia.
Es obvio que firman “anónimos” por las siguientes posibles razones:
1.- Les da pena su apellido (si lo tienen).
2.- Son tan cobardes que necesitan el escudo del anonimato.
3.- Se han puesto tan en evidencia en su estulticia, que hay una muy comprensible verguenza.
4.- Seguramente andan huyendo de migración…
5.- Obviamente a cualquiera le daría pena que los mexicanos de verdad, a los que insultan en sus “cartas”, sepan quienes son… ;))
6.- Son unos maricas cobardes, aparte de apátridas, que sólo desean ser gringos (lo cual jamás serán pues ahí sólo los aceptan como criados de cuarta) y sólo quisieran llamarse smith, en vez de perez. ;))
7.- Cuando quieran escribirme, háganlo en inglés, alemán, japonés o español…, no les pido maya o náhuatl, porque está demasiado más allá de su alcance y, no en una mezcla cómica de dos idiomas que no manejan.
Y por último, no haré chistoretes con sus apellidos porque como son culeros (la parte de atrás del pantalón), no los pusieron. Por cierto, no intenten con los albures, desconocen el castellano.
En cuanto a la historia, del periodo nazi y de mi país, tengo maestría y doctorado en ambas, amén de cinco premios nacionales por divulgación de la cultura (aunque dudo entiendan eso)… y, al ignaro que habló de la Thule Gesellschaft, debía leer libros de verdad con la historia de esa asociación, a la cual jamás pertenecieron quienes menciona, porque era una organización aristocrática.
En cuanto a la Swastika, JAMAS HA IMPORTADO “SU DIRECCIÓN”, HACIA LA DERECHA O LA IZQUIERDA. Hay Swastikas, no suasticas buenas o malas… y los nazis, por cierto, las usaban en ambas “direcciones”, debían documentarse donde valga la pena.
Ive Been side tracked by some Clown from Mexico calling me names because im inquiring about information and hoping someone could confirm or deny this information.
First
Basically what i have learned is that there are two representations of the swastika.
A positive and a negative.
If anybody can confirm or deny this PLEASE let me know.
Second
If the above is true. What ive learned is that the swastika which spins towards the right is considered the Positive Swastika
and the swastika that spins left is considered the negative swastika.
So for now.
Can anyone confirm or deny the above information.
I know that the swastika is one of the oldest symbols known to man and that indeed there may have been a time that there was No difference between the two types of swastikas.
What i think is that atleast from the mid 1800s to about the 1950s there may have been two representations of it.
Can anyone please confirm or deny?
Ill talk spanglish to you.
You seem to be educated mi amigo but the way u express yourself makes you seem very low class. I’m mexican. Mi papa nacido en Aguascalientes y mi mama en Jalisco. No tienes respeto mi amigo. Te ase falta. If its true you call mexicans born in the United States “come mierda” its ironic. Because millions of YOUR familia y amigos come over here every single year and live in the worst communities. Drive the cheapest oldest cars. Become gang members. Are ALL drunks and Adulterers. Have more children than they can afford. Don’t respect the laws. Don’t appreciate opportunities here and NEVER return to Mexico. They basically come to the United States to “Come Mierda” of us all. So before u consider Mexicans born in the U.S. “Come mierda” you better look around at your freinds and family that want to come here. Anyways lo que dices del swastika que Satanistas inventaron el Mal Swastika es lo que estoy diciendo. Hitler was a member of a Cult that worshipped Paganism or Satanism. It was called “}hule Society” No sabes nada Hector Chavalia. Go study history a little more. No hables lo que no sabes, estudia mas mi amigo. Hitler, Himmler, Y Hess eran parte de el “Thule Society”. So para ellos the swastika that rotated left was considered a more powerful symbol than the swastika that turned right. Hmmmm pues no se si me entiendes so nimodo Hector Chavala.
Hablando de los Maya, si se de el 2012. Y otra cosa, Si comes Mierda Hector. Aqui en Estados Unidos vivimos la vida buena. El Government de su country los tienen tan domiandos que ni pueden ganar $1 americano al dia. Felicidades
Dear Chicano:
First to all, Thanks for call me “come mierda”, that’s the way we, the real mexican, named the latin born garbage there, in USA. LOL.
So, I try to explain you, what the Swastika means, if you can’t understand: sorry my friend. And don’t call me “vato”, that’s like a insult for a real mexican: I can know about my name 500 years on the past, just in México. In the Pais Vasco, I can go 1000 more, years back so, I’m very proud to my family name, and that name is DE CHAVARRIA, with RR, not L, like use to say the people who can’t understand Spanish, that Euzkadi word means NEWHOUSE in your chicano language, and VON NEUHAUS in German, CASANOVA in Italy, ATARASHI IEE in japanese and is a very old name.
So, I can try to explain you about the Swastika in México, but I don’t think you can understand nahuatl or maya lenguages and his symbols, sorry.
By the other hand, if the swastika go to the right or to the left, that’s means nothing. That idea came from the “satanist” who was the most believers in the really pathetic chistian god.
Have a nice day.
Mexica tihui !!!!
(That was in nahuatl, the ancient lenguage of the Mexica). Be cool…
Que onda vato. Mire mi espanol no es muy bueno. So ohala awantas un poquito con como escribo. Ya se que no estoy escribiendo mis palas bien. Tambien soy mexicano. Nacido en Los Angeles. Puedo ver que entendiste lo que escribi en ingles. So si entiendes ingles porque no me respondes in ingles?? Entendi como 50% de lo que escribiste. Yo a oyido varias veces que la swastika dependiendo en que direccion esta dando vuelta representa “Mal” o “Bueno”. No qiero escribir mas de esta manera so si puedes escribir en ingles responde me. Si no come mierda por yamar me satanista.
Asta luego
Ah!, Real Revolution 2012:
Una cosa más…
Si te cuelgas del cuello una Swastika, irá con tus movimientos de un lado al otro ¿querría esto decir que eres “satanista” a veces y otras no?
Echale una ojeada a los estandartes nazis, esos de Deutschland Erwache! y verás que la Swastika va en ambos sentidos.
Eso del “satanismo nazi” lo inventaron varios alucinados, entre ellos los autores de Le Matin des Magiciens.
Un saludo.
Edelweisz Gruppe Mexiko.
La verdad es que esa idea, o más bien esa creencia, de que la Swastika “opuesta” significa “el mal”, es un invento de los patéticos creyentes occidentales en “el diablo”, esos mismos que inventaron las misas negras y otras tonterías teatrales con el único fin de hacer orgias. En realidad los “satanistas” -de Satán, el adversario-, son los más firmes creyentes en la deidad judeo-cristiana. ¿De no ser así, para que crear una liturgia respecto de su propia deidad adversaria?
En el budismo, las antiguas religiones mexicatl y en general todos aquellos que han -hemos-, usado la Swastika desde la más remota edad, el “sentido” de las “aspas” carece de importancia, la Swastika representa el movimiento, no un sentido de éste.
Los creyentes en el “satanismo” y tonterías afines se inventaron esas tonterías del movimiento levógiro u dextrógiro. El simbolismo “solar” corresponde a los pueblos australes, no a los creadores verdaderos de la Swastika, que procedemos del Hemisferio Norte.
Así que, no te enredes, la Swastika es un símbolo astronómico -polar para más referencia-, y el rollo nazi nada tiene que ver con eso. Ellos -los idiotas nazis-, usaron un símbolo que no les correspondía y hay que agregar a sus crímenes el haberlo ensuciado.
Un saludo afectuoso.
Von Neuhaus, Edelweisz Gruppe.
I don’t believe that both the clockwise and counter-clockwise spinning swastikas mean the same thing. There is a specific reason for example that the Nazis used the counter-clockwise spinning swastika and made sure that on there flags the swastika was never reversed on the opposite side. They did this by using thing fabric and basically sewing two flags together so that the bleed through did not show the clockwise spinning swastika. Any one who knows WWII history knows that the Nazis were Extremely heavy on Ideoligy. So there emphasis on making sure only the counter clockwise swastika was represented speaks volumes on how different its meaning was from the clockwise spinning swastika. From what I know the Nazis used the counter clockwise spinning swastika because it stood for Victory. This may be fact but there could also be another reason for having chosen this particular swastika.
What I have read only Once was that the positive swastika is the Clockwise spinning one and that it represents the Sun and nature or Natural or positive or Good energy. A true good luck charm. And that the Counter Clockwise spinning swastika represents the exact opposite. When u think about it this actually fits the stories about Hitler having been a member of the Occult.
So again and for the last time. Can anyone confirm with certainty or deny with certainty that the Clockwise spinning swastika is Good energy and the Counter Clockwise swastika means Bad Energy?????
SWASTIKA -fylfot
THE SWASTIKE IS A SANSKRIT WORD COMPOSED OF “SU” MEANING “GOOD” AND “ASTI” MEAINING “BEING” WITH THE SUFIX “KA” AND IS EQUIVALENT TO “IT IS WELL” OR “SO BE IT”. tHE SWASTIKA IS ONE OF THE MOST ANCIENT AND SACRED OF aRYAN SYMBOLS DATING BACK TO BEFORE 6,000 b.c.e. IT IS THE SIGN OF THE SUN,S STRENGHT, AS THE UNSTOPPABLE WHIRLING MIGHT OF WILL. THE ROUNDED VERSION VERSION IS KNOWN AS THE SUNWHEEL SWASTIKA. THE CLKOCKWISE MOTION REPRESENT THE CONSIUS SELF.
my grandfather was in the Luftwaffen. I may share his beliefs or i may not. it doesn’t matter. no matter what the connection to the symbol is, it only that. a symbol. people need to grow up and grow some balls. don’t let a simple little cross ruin your day.
About your doubt: the two swastikas are the same, the aparent movement around the Polar Star.
The Oldest religion don’t see differences on one and the oposite .
Youre
H.von Neuhaus
Christianity is a religion made up of goulash of religions and it was introduced in Europe with a sword in hand.
The swastika means good luck and have during the centuries been used as such, unfortunately evil temporary concurred the Aryans in WWII and using their propaganda machinery to smear the swastika.
I think the swastika does not resemble evil as thatis saying these religons which use the swastika are evil and that is like people saying Christianity is evil and thatis not nice
There is a widespread resentment in Japan (I’m from there btw) over the West’s usage of Swastika, known as “manji” in Japan.
Nintendo’s Pokemon had a buddhist-inspired character, but that was censored in the USA. The same happened to a cartoon “Kin’niku-man” OK, these are less big deals, but many Japanese families carry “family symbol”, and many of them contain manji, because it has been and still is the symbol of Buddhism in the same way cross is for Christianity and crescent is for Islam.
Japanese resentment probably wouldn’t have much effect, but what may happen is that China’s increasingly anti-west sentiment may pick on this issue and possibly India to follow.
Can Anyone Clear up what the Two forms of Swastikas actually mean though PLEASE.
Here is what ive read.
A positive swastika is one tha spins CLOCKWISE.
Clockwise meaning towards the Right with the extending lines flying left away from the clockwise spin.
The other example is the NAZI swastika which spins COUNTER CLOCKWISE. Meaning spinning towards the left with with extending lines extending right away from the counter clockwise spin.
The reason a clockwise swastika is considered POSITIVE is because its spinning with the NATURAL flow of NATURE. The SUN. Again NATURAL.
While they say a counter clockwise swastika is considered to mean VICTORY that tends to mean RESISTENCE or UN NATURAL. Against nature. To change the natural flow of things. While this of course sounds positive depending on your perspective it could also be considered as a Selfish act. To Combat the natural way of things for ones own personal gain at the cost of all of nature.
The actions of NAZIs are a clear indication that UN NATURAL acts were carried out but were planned from the begining.
Thats why im for Reclaiming the Swastika only because i think that we are still experiencing today alot of the negativity that the NAZIs spread through out the world.
BUT people have to be informed as to which Swastika is actually the POSITIVE swastika.
I SAY THAT THE CLOCK WISE SPINNING SWASTIKA IS THE POSITIVE ONE.
clockwise spins towards the right with the lines extending out towards the left away from the forward motion
THE COUNTER CLOCKWISE SPINNING SWASTIKA IS THE NEGATIVE ONE.
counter clockwise spins towards the left with the lines extending out towards the left away from the forward motion
I totally agree with the idea of reclaiming the swastika, and re-educating people to the beautifull meaning of this symbol. I think it is something that will eventually inevitably happen, although without a lot of help, possibly not in my lifetime.
I have recently been doing some stencil grafitti of different swastika’s with positive phrases, so that the people who see tham might associate the symbol with that word next time they see one?
Any ideas of words, or places to paint them would be greatly appreciated!
I couldn’t agree more that people need to let go of how bigot’s and racists have misued tradintionally strong and meaningful symbols. By banning it and not talking about it and being offended when someone sees it, what message is being sent?! It’s to keep the negative thought alive, instead of being able to recognize the bigger picture of its history.
I like this site and found it while looking to educate myself a little more on the symbolism of different historically controversal flags….Thank you for the enlightenment!
thats a nice symbol
but people dont like it
one day i went to school with a t-shirt that had a swastika on it and i became an anti-semit for the rest of the smester
i think that everyone should have their own beleif on what the symbol means. Weather or not that means the nazi way or the original way. i think nobody should try to take the symbol away from people who use it in a different way to show there belief because it isn’t their fault the Nazi’s chose to use this symbol for nazism like they did w/ many other symbols they technailly stole from other people to mean what the nazi wanted to mean.
isn’ t it just a sad fact of life, that another bunch of fat
political morons in europe wants to flex it’s political
and totalitarian muscle, to dictate their living terms to
all citizens. knowledge is power and they pass laws so that you can’ t have any. this is the process of all
political pigs, regardless of the symbol they use to
represent themselves.
I thank you for what you are doing with this site. The only way that things are going to change is through education and you are doing a good job here. I stumbled upon your site while doing research for a school paper, and found many interesting facts and pictures. Thanks again and keep spreading the love!
Worth reading about Swastika.: The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism and Nazi Survival_ by Joscelyn Godwin is an interesting book about occult and pseudoscientific theories on polar shifts, the succession of ages, the Aryan race, the “hollow earth” theory, Nazi underground bases, lost cities, UFOs, mystical powers, theosophy, sex magick and a host of other obscure topics. The book begins with a discussion of the theory of polar shift, its relation to astrological, occult and Hindu calculations concerning the ages the earth has gone through. The actuality of the proverbial Golden Age might have some support if at some point in the past the earth’s axis was parallel to the sun and not veering at a tilt. The North Pole would have had a temperate climate, illuminated by the shining stars, moon, the aurora borealis and the light of the sun visible beyond the horizon-a place of eternal light, a theoretical location for the Garden of Eden. Arising from this polar theory is the notion of a primordial polar homeland for the human race. This leads into the bizarre theories of the origin of the Aryan race and the superiority of Indo-European culture and religion over that of the Mediterranean and Middle Eastern Semites. The Nazi believed that the Germans had a mystical homeland in a northern region known as Thule. The theories of the Nazis are examined, including Alfred Rosenburg and his official exposition of Nazi philosophy, _Myth of the Twentieth Century_. The Sicilian esotericist Julius Evola and his book _Revolt Against the Modern World_ also draws from the polar myth. He believed that an original Aryan race migrated from a polar Hyperborea, following a solar religion dominated by the warrior ethos and conquering spirit. According to Evola, the original religion of these Aryans has its elements sown in the myths of world in a variety of cultures. A more aberrant view of Nazi occultism comes from Miguel Serrano, a Chilean diplomat and author. His work _Hitler: El Ultimo Avataro_ describes a cosmic struggle between the Order of Nazis who are currently located in a hidden base in Antarctica against “the Demiurge”: Judaism, Christianity and Freemasonry. The deliverance of the Aryan race will come when Nazi flying saucers emanate from Antarctica and take over the world. Many theories have also circulated about a possible “hole at the pole” where adventurers could gain access to subterranean Utopias. Aghartha and Shambhala are two mythical cites in Central Asia whose existence has been either literally or figuratively believed in. The denizens of Aghartha stand for worldly power while Shambhala is the abode of mystical enlightenment. The place of Antarctica is examined in detail as well as the North Pole. While the North Pole has a pleasant reputation (surprisingly Santa’s house is not mentioned) as a cozy homeland, the South Pole has stood for the earth’s demons. In old legends, treachery, death and monsters have been associated with the South. In modern times this translates into Serrano’s secret Nazis in Antarctica plotting against humanity. The Pole figures to a great extent in the various theories of the origins of religion as well. In the period after the Renaissance, Reformation and Enlightenment, many different scholars attempted to develop a unified theory to explain the origins of the world’s religions. One theory was one of a universal solar worship. An example of this would be the Gospels written to describe the sun passing through the signs of the Zodiac throughout the year. Phallus worship was another theory, attributing religion to the awe primordial men felt toward the generative and fertile sources of nature. The polar theory is a combination of the two. The swastika also has its origins here. The positions of Ursa Minor taken together throughout the seasons of the year thousands of years ago would have looked liked a swastika when depicted on a chart showing the seasonal observations simultaneously. The mythical “Land of the Sun” in several ancient cultures and astrological setups also show a polar orientation. Godwin notes that King Arthur may be drawn from the polar/solar traditions as well. The “Spiritual Pole” chapter covers the metaphysical practices, including Yoga, which have used polar and axial ideas to stand as a metaphor for an ascent into enlightenment. The last third of _Arktos_ summarizes the theories of why the earth’s axis is at a tilt. The “catastrophists” believed that the pole shifted in sudden violent changes in ages past and was responsible for epochal calamities. The “uniformitarians” on the other hand postulated that the earth is continually shifting its polar locations, repeating in cycles. The scientific theories concerning polar shifts are examined, but Godwin draws no conclusions for or against the idea. Of course, most of the occult literature on the subject is totally at odds with objective science. The most outlandish theorist examined here is Cyrus Teed, AKA “Koresh” (no Waco connection). This mystic propagated the idea that we are actually living on the concave of earth’s inner shell. The stars, planets and the sun are reflections inside the earth itself. One aspect of Godwin’s book that makes it informative is his objectivity-and possibly even a subtle hint of approval–towards his subjects. Godwin concludes by making reference to the Kali Yuga, the Age of Iron that describes the modern world process of decay according to Hindu eschatology, in addition to the “end of the Age of Pisces.” Although Godwin does not take Pisces as referring to Christ, he makes his support clear toward the idea of the “earth reasserting its rights” with a polar shift–a massive global catastrophe–that will destroy the pretenses of humanity and inaugurate the next Golden Age
Swastika is very ancient and holy symbol of India.In Harappan cities which belongs to 3600bc Swastika was excavated.In many indian ancient rock inscriptions start with ‘Swasthisri’.Many civilizations considered it as a sign of Good luck.Such a symbol of antiquity is nothing to do with those who misused it..Those countries which banned it simply doing it because of keeping inside some kind prejudice on Swastika’s cultural and religious connections.That is the real truth.
Hey, I wrote a comment in March (I think) asking what us common folk could do to help reclaim the swastika. I suggested buying T-shirts with swastikas and quick-witted lines, but as you perhaps do not have the budget to do this, I was wondering if I would be permitted to make a T-shirt saying “Reclaim the Swastika”, perhaps even with your fonts and stuff? If you do not wish me to do so, or if you’re a trademark, then I will of course not.
However, if you are a trademark, you are most welcome to start producing these T-shirts. I know I’d buy one!
the swastika has been wrongfully corrupted and the EU should seriously reconsider using it. It’s true meaning has not been lost, just clouded in misery and hate. We need to right this wrong as soon as possible.
But seriously, it’s refreshing to see that there are some out there who can see past the very temporally recent and geographically localized use of this beautiful and ancient symbol! The simple cross is just as old and widespread, but nobody recalls the horrors of the christian crusades when confronted with one.
The outrage directed at the swastika when used in a peaceful, proper context always seemed to me to be nothing more then a knee-jerk reaction by people too simple minded to do even the most cursory research. It seems being viewed as a racist is a much more taboo thing nowadays then inadvertently being seen naked!
if you discribe the phisical appearance of Mr.adolf heatler whitch is the leader of the organization of swastika, he look like a pinguin i dont know if thats true but it just base on my research.
I think the swastika looks super cool. So did Rudyard Kippling (Jungle Book) as he had a tattoo of one, and then Hitler came along and ruined it all, even NAZI sounds cool, but Hitler ruined it all.
Lady Michiru Kaiou San.
Gomen nasai, baka ni tsukure wakari nasai…
Some idiots came to this honorable site pretending be “nazis”, they are really patetics. Like this guy Bernt… My apologize for they.
The fight of England agaist the barbarian… was a finest moment in human kind’s History.
We need to fight against the ignorance and give the SWASTIKA his real significance.
Mein Liebe Bernt… however was your name…
Tienes de “ario” lo que cualquier humano tiene de reptil. Tu idiotez es sólo comparable con tu nula capacidad intelectual… los nazis pasaron al basurero de la historia… y ahí se quedarán.
Nuestro interés consiste en rescatar un símbolo que unos tarados ensuciaron. Mira “ario” relee (si es que sabes leer) Mein Kampf y ve de donde sacó el idiota de tu “Führer” la idea… yo ya lo leí, en alemán, castellano e inglés, tengo dos de sus libracos… dedicados de puño y letra. Ustedes los “neo” nazis son patéticos.
Te pongo esto en español, idiot, para ver si en tu “superioridad” hablas más de un idioma.
Yo hablo seis…
Graff Hermann Von Neuhaus.
I totally agree that the Swastika should be rehabilitated.
For far too long, the ignorant people of the world have
continued to demonize this mystic holy symbol, but
what they fail to realise is that the Fuhrer (Hitler) stole
it to symbolize his twisted Weltanschaung
(world view), just as he stole everything else to build
up the NSDAP.
My mother survived the Blitz in London in 1940, so
I never experienced World War II or the Third Reich,
so instead I decided to research it, regardless of
other people’s opinions.
I know about the Holocaust, so I am not insensitive
to the plight of the Jews.
And if anyone needs a reminder, just take a trip to
Auschwitz, which stands as a permanent reminder of
the horrors of National Socialism.
(Nazi is shorthand for Nationalsozalistiche Deutscher
Arbeiter Partei).
it is a symbol for many cultures and rases. i say that the jews should get over it . just like the rebel flag and the african americans. if they can get over the confederacy then jews can get over the nazis
well, F the jews! what about palestine? what are they going through? this is not a race thing! it’s about a symbol and what it means, it doesn’t means “kill jews!” for shore!!!! Israel wasn’t even a country 70 years ago!.. But this site it’s not about religions, it’s about a symbol that was interpretated the wrong way…
The swastika’s misinterpretation is one of prejudice, in my opinion. The symbol was used to bless homes and families in the East for centuries. We shouldn’t be offended by it just because some maniac like Hitler abused it. I use a symbol that is based on the swastika and that doesn’t offend me (some of my relatives are Jewish).
@H.von Neuhaus - Cool. Well, you can post small images to this message board with a simple HTML image tag. For this, the image would have to be already present on the Web (e.g. on Flickr):
<img src="IMAGE_URL" alt="SHORT_DESCRIPTION" />
Or, if you just want to send them so we can see them, please email mail {at} reclaimtheswastika {dot} com
Thanks.
How can I send to you the pictures of the symbol used by the rescue team from ASUME 19?
I’m trully sure you don’t know the Atlante Swastika… tell me please.
The Asume 19 is a mountanering survival group who use the Edelweiß and the Swastika as symbols… we want to reivindicate the ancient symbols profanated by the nazis.
We think this is a very good place for doing.
Saludos afectuosos.
In fact I have the idea of writhing a book about the Swastika, but I need a editor… and we are making swastikas on metal and plastic here in Mexico… and finally, my group of mountanering use the atlante double swastika as his symbol with the inscription: Omnia Mecum Porto….
Thanks for the fight in pro of the understod of this beautifull symbol.
i applaud you for ding this- the symbol is of great power- it deeply sadens me that Hitler still controls the minds of innocent people who no not the power and great beaury of the symbol– i have thought many times to write a book or do something to promote the true essence of the symbol– well done- let meknow how i can b of any assistance…
I think that the swastika should not be banned from use because if people are mature they will use the symbol right. Also kids use the symbol in school prodjects ,and are learnig how discrimarory the symbol is . So no the swastica shouldn’t be banned for certian reasons .,
It is more hypocritical to use the star for racism than to use the swastika cause you know, the swastika is force that drives, the star is pure peace, we do not drive it, it drives us
The “Star of David” is also known from all civil and or “civilized cultures” in the universe.
The Hexagram is found in the molecule and in the molecular structure of the universe on all levels.
The swastika is the heart, that which is life, and the star of David starts as small as a musterd seed and it’s body gows while the spirit can never stop growing.
Your connection to the swastika is sheer reality, but our connection the Hexagram is to that of divinity in ourselves, our univese, to the highest heavens.
The swastika is found in every culture on the planet.
All from the most primitive to the most advanced, by all intelegent biengs and enlightened beings in the universe the swastika is held and lived by becuase any society who knows how the univese works knows that from the galexy to black and white holes to the power of all things circular–cyclical.
I was proud to wear my traditional Raelian symbol, with the 6 point star and swastika, to work as soon as I got it. I have the modified version tattooed on my arm. But the original version needs to be prevalent. Take the swastika back. People should see it as the ultimate disarming of neo-nazis.
Good idea Julia, many of us will like to use T.Shirts with the Swastika on his real concept…
I use my metal swastika always, even with my jude friends, they understand the real significance.
Go ahead with this as soon as possible!
I love the idea of reclaiming the swastika. I hate that the nazis used it for their sick purposes - I can’t have any Buddhist flag at home without people thinking I’m a nazi, that’s just not right.
Is there anything I, or the pleb, can do to support this reclamation? Some sort of petition? Buying t-shirts with quick-witted lines and swastikas on them?
i am finishing a mansuscript which is aimed at the metaphysical audience. i will be propsing the new consciousness begin wearing the swasitka to reclaim it from the brutes who stole it. may i reference your site, possibly take info? while not the subject of the book itself, ia discussion of the history and symbology of the swastika will be included in the afterward of the book.
I totaly agree, it’s a graphic symbol like no other, older than the nazi history itself.
Let’s bring her again, let’s embrace the swastika and other cultures. Not reject them or forbid. Hasta!
Anyone can take any symbol and turn it into anything they want. I can take a dollar sign and give me a month and it will be a symbol of hate. But just because it is America’s symbol of money, some b.s. website will want to take back “their” symbol. Why does it have to be a movement…
SWASTIKA…..SwAsTiKa…..Swastika……. PPL need to stop stressin ova da Swastika all the religons who use it know what it is and how that dumb son off a b***h Hitler disgraced it and used it wrongfully…so to my HINDUS, Buddhists, and Jains,,,,much luv dont let that @$$ let any 1 say anything bout our cultures……and it would be nice TO RECLAIM THE SWASTIKA….
I am a graphic design student conducting a project on the Swastika. I was hoping I could pose some questions to the ‘Reclaim the Swastika’ organisers.
I would greatly appreciate any help.
Thank you
I feel that the Swastika will naturally reclaim its rightful place over the next few decades as Asia and especially India move to the centre stage of the world. The reality is that with economic strength comes the ability to influence cultural issues. The current guilt trip by the West over Hitler which demonises the Swastika is only sustainable while they have the economic upper hand.
it is a real shame that the nazis perverted this meaningful symbol. i say with utmost disappointment that in western eyes, this symbol will be tainted forever. i believe that buddhists, hindus, jains, and all people who identify with this symbol in a positive way will have to continue to remind ignorant people of its extremely GOOD origins. (and i’m so sorry about that…) the misuse of the swastika, the ultimate ancient symbol of goodness, is proof of hitler’s extreme hate.
LET US JOIN TOGETHER TO COMBAT THE WORLD’S HATRED THROUGH EDUCATION, LOVE, AND ACCEPTANCE.
Say i am a person from South Asia, Nepal. Hitler was totally screwed up his A$$ or was high when he choose this symbol and faced it against the mirror and turned it a little on the left. This symbol here in my country has been in use way before Hitler’s time which means Peace, love and its celebration. And the thing about Aryan, we are the real Aryan’s not the germans and Hitler wanted to create his people to be a supremebeing just like we are. That’s why he brain washed saying he was Aryan and used our symbol and misused it. I was in a correctional facility in the united states and i saw many skin heads with all the Nazi tattoos saying “white pride” on the back of their neck, it was really hillarious because if anyone of you skinheads read this then u ain’t no damm Aryan and u people don’t even know how the swastika is in its real Aryan form, Hitler really messed it up. I just wanna say that i am who i am and i don’t need to be german to be an Aryan, just go and read some history…………..
Well, the jews would happily dwell on it forever.Through it they can accumulate what is most important for the most of them in life - Power and control, represented in this case by money.Cultural reasons and the like mean nothing to them no matter what someone tells you or even more what one of them tells you, that’s why most people have never heard anything else about the swastika other than its coherence with the Nazis and everyone knows about that eh?
I indeed we should reclaim the swastika, in my religion it is a symbol dedicated to one of our gods.
Yes its sad what the germans did, but that is over 60 years ago and we cant dwell on it forever
I just want to tell you that the swastika was used in most of europe during the bronzeage. In northern europe it was primary used as a solar symbol. I dont now the specifik mening of the symbol in the southern part of europe.
In skandinavia the symbol was mainly used as the reverse of the naziswastika. And it was a symbol of good luck no matter what the hindu tradition tells. As all solar symbols
Von Recla
And tomorrow is the 69 aniversary of British declaration of war to the nazis, for show then how’s the free world with agresors.
Long life to the British Army!
Von Neuhaus
Today is the 69th anniversary of the nazi invasion of Poland Blitzkrieg showed the world a whole new type of war.Thanks to the German army.
What are you a fucking fag or a nigger?
Blooson, I have swastikas on my collectable WWII German uniforms because they are part of them. Whether they are viewed as good, bad, or indifferent, the swastika is just a geometric design. The East does not have an exclusive claim to the swastika, nor any other part of the world or any religion. No one knows when the first one was scrawled with a burnt stick on some rock or an opponent’s forehead. I could claim I invented punctuation marks and therefore demand royalty payments from the entire Earth’s population.
Hi All,
Perhaps it is time to cleanse the Swastika of its negative connotations and liberate it from its association with the Nazis.
As many have pointed out the Swastika is an ancient spiritual symbol that has been in existance for thousands of years and can be found engraved on the walls and floors of Buddhist and Hindu temples as well as churches in parts Asia and Europe. It is a symbol that unites races and religions.
The following video explains the significance of the *three* forms of the Swastika along with its direction of rotation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCbPB8q6ZBQ
We have a choice here. We can continue to make the Swastika a symbol of fear and hate or we can reclaim it and use the way it was originally intended.
Cheers.
nice one well done hitler
swastika is a sign of peace but if used the wrong way can be evil but genraly is good!!!!!
Nazi swastikas are black, not red, or blue, or plaid. What is with all of the Hindu stuff? Hindus think their dead uncle is a beaver, or some deformed child is a god. The U.S. Navy has a building that is a swastika. And guess what? Somebody saw it on Goggle Earth and whined about it. Now, with my tax dollars, the building will be changed so the whinybutts will shut up.
Hello to all,
What would be a left turning Swastika?
Well that is a mirrored western swastika or the swastika you are using as your page banner.
I must also say that a red swastika which turns counterclockwise and is a mirror projection of the swastika you are using, stems out of the Hindhu culture.
The blue one who is also mirrored and turns counterclockwise, that stems out of the Tibetan Bön culture which has its roots about 18.000 years ago…..
So the Nazi cross is a red one and shows the copy out of the Hindhu culture.
Furter copied out of the Hindhu cultur, done by the German spiritual lady adviser from Hitler is the word Arier.
Arier is derived from the Sanskrit word Aryan and this means great. Herewith is meant the greatness of the Brahmins. These Brahmins have blue eyes and blond hair. These are the Aryans of the Vedas. So Hitler thought with the help of his female spiritual advisor that the Germans would be the source of the Brahmins.
Further do the Brahmins speak an Indo-German language. This is indeed for Europeans easier to study then Chinese.
That all was for Hitler a motivation to make war on an ideological base.
Mussolini did the same in relation with the Roman empire and Hirohito, well he was anyway a God King and could do everything he liked.
These were some more detailed explanations regarding the Swastika in relation to the western world use of the ancient powerfull blue skies symbol.
Best wishes:
Kalden Yungdrung
Hello Pete,
Yes it is indeed thta the use in the western world of the swastika is a right turning one.
Original it is counterclockwise, to the left.
So the question would be why is it in the western world a right turning swastika?
Regards:
Kalden Yungdrung
Kalden, the emblem of the U.S. 45th Infantry Division was, from 1923 to 1940, a red right-pointing swastika on a yellow diamond. Both ways are found in American Indian history and societies. The 45th changed its symbol in 1940 because of the Nazis. Today it is a red Thunderbird and the smaller 45th Infantry Brigade is headquartered in Oklahoma as the Oklahoma Army National Guard, though a lot of them are in Iraq right now. Swastikas have been pointed both ways in many countries for many years. Who knows, there might be cave paintings somewhere with swastikas. Hmmm…Nazi neanderthals.
Hello all,
There is something to say about your banner e.a. logo.
When the swastika is right turned this means in fact the nazi cross.
The ancient Hindhu and Tibetan Bön swastika cross is to the left turning.
The swatika is the symbol of eternity.
The swatika describes with its left turning the way the palnets turn.
The Swastika means in the Bön history of aboyt 18.000 years YUNG DRUNG.
Because Bön deals with ultimate Wisdom is this Wisdom eternal and symbolyzed by the Swastika or Yung Drung or in the Bön language Mu Drung. With last mentioned Mu Drung is: Mu = sky and drung = eternal
P.s.I saw the reply of a Jewish person. he might maybe upset because your emblem or banner figures the anzi cross, because it is a right turning cross. Like i told are the religious crosses used in Tibetan Bön Buddhism and in Hindhu culture, left turning swastikas.
Best wishes:
Kalden Yungdrung
sWASTIKA iN vEDIC TEXT MEANS SOMETHING PEACEFUL.
sWASTI = Peace and well being for the whole world
The Canto in vedas
Swasti Na Indro VruDhaShwaha
Swasti Na Pusha, VishwaVedaha
Swasti NasTakShor Arishtha NaeMiHi,
Swasti No BruHasPatti Daddatu
So swasti is asking The Lord of Swasti or the lord of Ashta vasus or directions for peace and and good will for all.
Swastika In Hindusim is Lord Ganesha. So dont hate the symbol. Its got nothing to do with Nazism
My, hasn’t this subject veered off into sniping and innuendo. It’s just a geometric design. What if they had used a hexagon? So much for bolt heads.
But, if controversy is required by some just to get a rise with an unrelated subject, here is a note from 8-year old Kurt Hoffstedter of Munich in 1943:
Dear Mister Himmler,
please don’t kill all of the kikes. I like to fly them.
Yours suspiciously,
Kurt Hoffstedter
Dear Lev Abramovich,
What has that diatribe got to do with the Swastika?
We’re supposed to be coming together to reclaim this peaceful and holy symbol. This isn’t the right place to be raking over the same old coals.
We all know about the Holocaust. We know what happened. We don’t need to be reminded of the horror at every turn in our lives.
Please, for once, can’t we concentrate on the good things in the world rather than spending our lives fretting about the bad?
To my dear Lev Abramovich:
you’re too stupid to be talking like this. It’s not a “nazi cross” you idiot. And this site is about a symbol with thousands of years older than the nazis and concentration fields or jews themselves. How can you be such an idiot? Either you’re a cultureless jew or just a sutpid guy with internet and nothing to do. Long live the swastika, symbol of good luck and prosperity. Death to stupid idiots and nazis! Circumsized kisses to you all! *****
I stumbled onto this website while researching the origins of the Nazi cross for a college class.
I am saddened by people who still are so dumb that they think the “jews” run the world.
You all just cant accept that there are jews in many different countries, who are all different races, and several of them are very successful. They are successful because they worked hard, and are smart!!!!
Try it sometime. Hopefully you too are smart!
And, From what I gather, isnt this site supposed to be for people to try and restore the peaceful, and WISE meaning of the original Swastika?
I cant believe how many STUPID people are on this site! I have seen countless people say that the holocaust was a lie, and then even more people not say one word about it!
How could the holocaust be a lie, if there were 19 concentration camps across europe, 7 DEATH camps across europe (devoted SOLELY to INCINERATING all of its visitors),
and many labor camps as well.
Over 30 camps total, devoted to sacrifice….not to mention, that the population of Polands jews went from much over 3 million, to less than 100,000!!!
Then, add the countless other jews, the Russian jews. the Hungarian jews, the german jews. Even Greek and Danish jews were killed.
There are COUNTLESS VIDEO TAPEs of Countless camps being Liberated, with PILES of bodies, containing hundreds of thousands of people, and that is only from the last couple DAYS of the war! Use COMMON SENSE!!!!
This isnt some conspiracy!!! Many different countries had soldiers with film, photographs, and written accounts of these atrocites. Not to mention, the several german documents detailing the plans. And, the many nazi officials who ADMITTED these atrocities.
Oh, and I almost forgot, we have the actual REMAINS of over 30 HUGE camps, devoted to housing thousands of prisoners, and then cowardly proceeding to gas and burn them.
Dont you get it????
They had to build STOVES in order to BURN THE CORPSES. THAT IS HOW MANY WERE KILLED.
Do you get it now???? Kill twenty people. Mass grave. Kill 500,000 people at one camp over four year? You have to proceed to Incinerate them. WHich is what the Nazi scum DID. Now, add up ALL of the death camps, and youve got 6 million EASY.
You want to be CONSERVATIVE???? 5.5 million is being ridiculously conservative.
You can fill up a book with the SS cowardice. The eisenstazgruppen would kill THOUSANDS of slavic jews in russia, and even slavic christians, for no other reason than these soldiers were brainwashed into believing that the people were scum.
In germany and hungary and otehr countries, The SS had several ambulances, which were air-sealed, and had a big red cross on the back. These big vans would drive up to groups of native villagers, and ask them if anyone wants to go and work, and be fed. Then, the ones who got in, would be driven around a corner, and gassed, in the rear of the van.
LOOK IT UP. There are many pictures, and testimonies, which are obviously authentic. I enjoy the neo-nazi who OWNS UP to what their idols did in WW2. At least those neo-nazis have BALLS.
OH, and the Swastika is NOT a WHOLLY GERMANIC OR NORDIC SYMBOL. How many artifacts must be found all over the earth for you dumb neo-nazis to accept this? It is YOU who are sub-human!
Richey and Pete:
I agree with you too, everybody in the world need a change of goverment, but I hope that came without violence.
The better way could be the education, and that’s a very hard task.
Hope we can do that together.
That’s the spirit of the Swastika’s people.
Toi, toi, toi !
Richey, I agree whole heartedly with you. All you and your fellow countrymen need to do is what we did with the same government you are under now. The question is: Do enough of you have the bolox to actually do it? It’s a big move, but the only alternative is continued slavery. Then again, you are unarmed and therefore any action would be moot. We kept the Germans from doing this to England. We didn’t know the British government would do the same thing years later. Sorry. It’s up to you (England) to make your destiny what you will of it. I hope you prevail.
We need Reinvention, A new flag. We need a new meaning. A new way of the old ways! We need to put all the best ideas together and use them. If any negative stuff comes along we need to come together and communicate with the person or people to find a positive outcome for all concerned.
Today in the uk and alot of europe people are sick and tired with being messed around by their governments and councils. Most of the partys are corrupt to the core. People need to unite and do something about it. One day soon the day will come when people will say NO MORE.
I love swastikas! They give the illusion of rotation, but they are standing still. They’re like old school spinners! But I’m not a Hindu or even religious at all. I’m white and I feel that it is a symbol of my heritage and it connects me with other white people. I don’t want to kill the jews but when I see a swastika it makes me feel proud that I am white.
On the forum http://yungdrung-rignga-ling.forums-free.com/ there is the right explanation about the Bön version of the Swastika.
In Zhangzhung language, the old language of the Bön it is called Mu Drung. It means eternal sky.
The Chagchig or ritual gYungdrung goes together with the Shang or flat bell.
The Chagchig in the right hand and the Shang in the left hand.
Bön culture is about 18.000 years old.
In this relation do i guess that the Swastika or Yungdrung (Mu drung) has its origin in the Bön culture.
Best wishes.
In Bön:
Kalden Yungdrung
I grew up knowing only the bad of the swastika symble i was unaware of the ariginal meaning with that i say thankyou for educating me.
I grew up knowing only the bad of the swastika symble i was unaware of the ariginal meaning with that i say thankyou for inlighing me.
… and because of WWII there will never again be a child named Adolf Hitler.
Damn you Adolf for ruining two perfectly good names!
bxnbngfngf
Dear Anonymous,
We have only one revolution to our credit and it was our own. We have tried to stay out of other people’s wars (Norway was pussy enough to be taken by the Germans) but, we helped get them out of your country anyway. We have been either dragged into foreign wars since 1812 or were attacked and did something about it. Americans don’t like war. We like going on with our daily lives and not messing with goofballs who have nothing better to do than interupt normal people. I’m guessing you are fairly young and watch too much left-wing TV. We have nothing to do with Nazis, except putting them out of business.
And just what is “bad” about having an eagle as our national symbol? The eagle is a symbol of majesty and strength, which this nation possesses. What is your’s, a walrus, or maybe an icicle? On top of all that, you are illiterate.
jadroe, you must be jocking.
The country you are talking of is not a country but an empire. It has prodused more conflicts, wars and revolutions than any other empire in the world.
I wish they never use the Swasita , it is bad anough that they use the eagle.
In a society like the one that is present in the U.S. today, would it even be possible to enlighten people to the true meaning of the Swastika?
This society is so media fed, and who controls the media? The same people that don’t want to let go of the recent past, the recent past compared to how old the Swastika is.
Such a great country, one that really does produce a lot of good, but there is just this hint of common sense missing, the drive to “know” beyond the media, to think outside of the tube.
If the cultures that used the Swatsika as a positive symbol also had a God, then I wish that this God would appear and educate the closed minded, and do away with the upholding of the wrong images that people have of this ancient ideogram.
It seems to me that the human body is a converter- the perfect tool for transforming energies that pass through us. all energies that pass through the human body or are generated by the human body should be converted to positive, beautiful energy that resembles light as opposed to darkness.
This symbol as become dark and it creates darkness in the hearts of people who look at it now.
it must be converted to light- so that light is its only creation.
Beautiful job Mr. Kornus.
I saw a Chinese Mauser years ago that had many swastikas stamped all over it. I asked the dealer what they were about and he said the swastika was, and is, a popular good luck symbol in China. One time I drew an electrical schematic and then noticed that four of the wires looked like a swastika. I didn’t change it. Some people whine too much about nothing. It’s just a geometric design. The next thing you know, someone will want to ban circles because people throw up if they spin around too much or, squares because they impart being “enclosed” and therefore anti-social. We musn’t forget the mentally impared (like those who freak out about swastikas).
You can still find plenty of swastikas in the Southwest of America because the Indians use it for all sorts of things. I saw a wrench a few years ago that was made in Chicago in the 1920s and the company logo was a swastika. Whine, whine, whine.
Heil Berg!
Like in the Nanga Parbat.
Live long and prosper!
Héctor Chavarría
That, about the armenian swastika is really interesthing… have you photos or something about that?
The Swastika is a beauty, the nazis are idiots.
Sieg Heil, und Sieg Berg!!!!
Live long and prosper!
Héctor Chavarría
sieg heil
the jews are the ones who tried to vilify and ban the swastika, let us not leave that point out. the national socialists used it for the same reasons you do.
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Karekin Dickran
Your absolutely right, the Catholic church is nothing but a glorified power house.
“Swastika” ideogram is an ancient symbol depicted by plenty in Armenian Highlands, dating back
to 20-15,000 years BC. Armenians call the symbol Astica. The prefix “Ast” stands for
Almighthy. Ast.vads in Armenian means God, the sufix “ads” means: who gives birth to [energy].
Kindest regards
Karekin Dickran
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Torquemada:
You must be one of those who believe in the inquisiciòn like the method for make good catholic slaves.
The inquisitors are criminals.
I hope you can learn a little bit more about the Swastika.
Your catholic cross is a torture instrument.
live long and prosper!
Tomas de Torquemada
You must be one of those that believe in the Mumbo Jumbo of Christianity.
Hakekors has been around before they even where considering making that fairytale.
Los mejores deseos de SWASTIKA para todos, palabra que en sanscrito significa:
ES BUENO ESTAR BIEN.
Trully yours:
H.de Chavarría
Hakenkreuz, gammadion… Swastika:
¿Cual profanación? Están dándole demasiada importancia a la cruz cristiana, la cual en realidad no es otra cosa que un instrumento de tortura.
Además, al simpático “torquemada”, para que fuera “una profanación”, la cruz cristiana tendría que haber sido equilátera… y no lo es.
El verdadero símbolo del cristianismo fue el PEZ luego la iglesia romana -que no es cristiana-, eligió el simbolo de tortura romano como su insignia y en nombre de ese instrumento de tortura los católicos, no los cristianos, masacraron a millones mediante la inquisición, las cruzadas, etc.
Así que ¿cual profanación?!!
La Swastika es un símbolo dinámico, de acción y bondad… la cruz de los católicos es estática, significa dolor y muerte.
> Hackcross (Hakenkreuz) is profanation of Christian Cross done by breaking its beams in half on middle of each beam radiating from crossing point.
Except that the swastika pre-dates Christianity by several thousand years.
Hackcross (Hakenkreuz) is profanation of Christian Cross done by breaking its beams in half on middle of each beam radiating from crossing point. Because of this, hackcross should be totally banned.
Mr.Castillo:
Realmente todo se reduce a una cuestión de interpretación.
Son las personas las que hacen las cosas buenas o malas, como también es de las personas el concepto de bien y mal.
La Swastika, como se ha dicho muchas veces, es signo de bienaventuranza, es antigua y dinámica, los nazis la ensuciaron y los creyentes en “satanismos” le adjudicaron una dualidad buena o mala según la dirección en la cual se supone “gira”, pero eso es una tontería.
Si desea conocer algo mas al respecto, busque en el website del periodico Voces mi artículo sobre la Swastika y verá el profundo significado que esta tuvo para las culturas ancestrales de México y tiene ahora para grupos de montaña como el Edelweiß Gruppe Mexiko.
Atentamente.
H.Chavarría
I say that people that want to do evil or bad things always steal from God the beautiful things to devalue them and cause confusion. It is always in the eyes of the beholder and their perception. I have always loved the rainbow and when I learned it had sinister meanings was told to take it off my truck. No, I know what it means to me. That is all that matters. The swastika is what you believe it to be. As humans we tend to forget that God made all things good. Man in his choices and rebellion chooses to make things evil. The Confederate Flag to me is beautiful yet it offends others. I see it as part of history and not as a race symbol. People need to let things go, :its a bag of Cheetos”, let it go and get another one.
Que?
Tienes maestría y doctorado en ambas??
LOL
Ciendo de Mexico eso tiene el valor de trabajando en McDonalds aqui. LOL Ganas $5 al dia.
Felicidades con tu maestria y doctorado.
Tu policia te Roba.
Tu gobierno te Viola
Nunca logras Nada
So tu educacion de caber Japones, German, Y Mayan no te ayuda NADA. Y tu lo sabes LOL
Mayan?? Que logras con eco?? LOL
La verdad, otra bes entendi como 40% de lo que escribiste.
Ya dejame en pas. Ya se que tienes ambre so ve y gana tus $5 al dia.
Bein echo.
Mucha Mucha Suerte
RECLAIM THE “POSITIVE” SWASTIKA!!!
For sure Bernt:
The representation of Swastika as the sun, came from the cultures of south, like Moches and Quechua. In the north cultures, like Maya and Mexica, is a polar symbol and that’s the way as he was always used.
The movement (aparent) of the Polar Bear around the North Star.
Bernt you are correct with the rest, but never the direction have a significance of good or evil like some people want to believe…
In fact, the mayan Swastika is a double one… and have the same value.
That’s the way we on the Edelweiß use them on the mountains.
Dr. Héctor De Chavarría
Edelweiß Gruppe Mexiko.
Gringos de quinta y mexicanos de octava:
Lo que resultó muy claro fue su nivel ¿cultural?, Uds. son de esas personas, arrimadas a la limosna gringa quienes para empezar no hablan ni inglés ni español…
Preguntan algo de jardín de niños y cuando se les responde correctamente, su ignorancia les lleva a sentirse ofendidos (sintiendo que les dijeron satanistas), bueno esa es una premisa de la estulticia.
Es obvio que firman “anónimos” por las siguientes posibles razones:
1.- Les da pena su apellido (si lo tienen).
2.- Son tan cobardes que necesitan el escudo del anonimato.
3.- Se han puesto tan en evidencia en su estulticia, que hay una muy comprensible verguenza.
4.- Seguramente andan huyendo de migración…
5.- Obviamente a cualquiera le daría pena que los mexicanos de verdad, a los que insultan en sus “cartas”, sepan quienes son… ;))
6.- Son unos maricas cobardes, aparte de apátridas, que sólo desean ser gringos (lo cual jamás serán pues ahí sólo los aceptan como criados de cuarta) y sólo quisieran llamarse smith, en vez de perez. ;))
7.- Cuando quieran escribirme, háganlo en inglés, alemán, japonés o español…, no les pido maya o náhuatl, porque está demasiado más allá de su alcance y, no en una mezcla cómica de dos idiomas que no manejan.
Y por último, no haré chistoretes con sus apellidos porque como son culeros (la parte de atrás del pantalón), no los pusieron. Por cierto, no intenten con los albures, desconocen el castellano.
En cuanto a la historia, del periodo nazi y de mi país, tengo maestría y doctorado en ambas, amén de cinco premios nacionales por divulgación de la cultura (aunque dudo entiendan eso)… y, al ignaro que habló de la Thule Gesellschaft, debía leer libros de verdad con la historia de esa asociación, a la cual jamás pertenecieron quienes menciona, porque era una organización aristocrática.
En cuanto a la Swastika, JAMAS HA IMPORTADO “SU DIRECCIÓN”, HACIA LA DERECHA O LA IZQUIERDA. Hay Swastikas, no suasticas buenas o malas… y los nazis, por cierto, las usaban en ambas “direcciones”, debían documentarse donde valga la pena.
Atte.
Dr. Héctor De Chavarría
Ive Been side tracked by some Clown from Mexico calling me names because im inquiring about information and hoping someone could confirm or deny this information.
First
Basically what i have learned is that there are two representations of the swastika.
A positive and a negative.
If anybody can confirm or deny this PLEASE let me know.
Second
If the above is true. What ive learned is that the swastika which spins towards the right is considered the Positive Swastika
and the swastika that spins left is considered the negative swastika.
So for now.
Can anyone confirm or deny the above information.
I know that the swastika is one of the oldest symbols known to man and that indeed there may have been a time that there was No difference between the two types of swastikas.
What i think is that atleast from the mid 1800s to about the 1950s there may have been two representations of it.
Can anyone please confirm or deny?
Thank you
Hector “Chupa Verga” Chavalaeeeya
no respondas
Ve trabaja por $1 al dia
Thank you to everyone else.
Hector CHAVALA eeeya
Ill talk spanglish to you.
You seem to be educated mi amigo but the way u express yourself makes you seem very low class. I’m mexican. Mi papa nacido en Aguascalientes y mi mama en Jalisco. No tienes respeto mi amigo. Te ase falta. If its true you call mexicans born in the United States “come mierda” its ironic. Because millions of YOUR familia y amigos come over here every single year and live in the worst communities. Drive the cheapest oldest cars. Become gang members. Are ALL drunks and Adulterers. Have more children than they can afford. Don’t respect the laws. Don’t appreciate opportunities here and NEVER return to Mexico. They basically come to the United States to “Come Mierda” of us all. So before u consider Mexicans born in the U.S. “Come mierda” you better look around at your freinds and family that want to come here. Anyways lo que dices del swastika que Satanistas inventaron el Mal Swastika es lo que estoy diciendo. Hitler was a member of a Cult that worshipped Paganism or Satanism. It was called “}hule Society” No sabes nada Hector Chavalia. Go study history a little more. No hables lo que no sabes, estudia mas mi amigo. Hitler, Himmler, Y Hess eran parte de el “Thule Society”. So para ellos the swastika that rotated left was considered a more powerful symbol than the swastika that turned right. Hmmmm pues no se si me entiendes so nimodo Hector Chavala.
Hablando de los Maya, si se de el 2012. Y otra cosa, Si comes Mierda Hector. Aqui en Estados Unidos vivimos la vida buena. El Government de su country los tienen tan domiandos que ni pueden ganar $1 americano al dia. Felicidades
Be cool
I love to hear different opinions from people. The swastika in my opinion is a very pretty symbol. This is my favorite website!
Dear Chicano:
First to all, Thanks for call me “come mierda”, that’s the way we, the real mexican, named the latin born garbage there, in USA. LOL.
So, I try to explain you, what the Swastika means, if you can’t understand: sorry my friend. And don’t call me “vato”, that’s like a insult for a real mexican: I can know about my name 500 years on the past, just in México. In the Pais Vasco, I can go 1000 more, years back so, I’m very proud to my family name, and that name is DE CHAVARRIA, with RR, not L, like use to say the people who can’t understand Spanish, that Euzkadi word means NEWHOUSE in your chicano language, and VON NEUHAUS in German, CASANOVA in Italy, ATARASHI IEE in japanese and is a very old name.
So, I can try to explain you about the Swastika in México, but I don’t think you can understand nahuatl or maya lenguages and his symbols, sorry.
By the other hand, if the swastika go to the right or to the left, that’s means nothing. That idea came from the “satanist” who was the most believers in the really pathetic chistian god.
Have a nice day.
Mexica tihui !!!!
(That was in nahuatl, the ancient lenguage of the Mexica). Be cool…
Hector de ChaVALIA
Que onda vato. Mire mi espanol no es muy bueno. So ohala awantas un poquito con como escribo. Ya se que no estoy escribiendo mis palas bien. Tambien soy mexicano. Nacido en Los Angeles. Puedo ver que entendiste lo que escribi en ingles. So si entiendes ingles porque no me respondes in ingles?? Entendi como 50% de lo que escribiste. Yo a oyido varias veces que la swastika dependiendo en que direccion esta dando vuelta representa “Mal” o “Bueno”. No qiero escribir mas de esta manera so si puedes escribir en ingles responde me. Si no come mierda por yamar me satanista.
Asta luego
Ah!, Real Revolution 2012:
Una cosa más…
Si te cuelgas del cuello una Swastika, irá con tus movimientos de un lado al otro ¿querría esto decir que eres “satanista” a veces y otras no?
Echale una ojeada a los estandartes nazis, esos de Deutschland Erwache! y verás que la Swastika va en ambos sentidos.
Eso del “satanismo nazi” lo inventaron varios alucinados, entre ellos los autores de Le Matin des Magiciens.
Un saludo.
Edelweisz Gruppe Mexiko.
Dear “verdadera revolución 2012″
La verdad es que esa idea, o más bien esa creencia, de que la Swastika “opuesta” significa “el mal”, es un invento de los patéticos creyentes occidentales en “el diablo”, esos mismos que inventaron las misas negras y otras tonterías teatrales con el único fin de hacer orgias. En realidad los “satanistas” -de Satán, el adversario-, son los más firmes creyentes en la deidad judeo-cristiana. ¿De no ser así, para que crear una liturgia respecto de su propia deidad adversaria?
En el budismo, las antiguas religiones mexicatl y en general todos aquellos que han -hemos-, usado la Swastika desde la más remota edad, el “sentido” de las “aspas” carece de importancia, la Swastika representa el movimiento, no un sentido de éste.
Los creyentes en el “satanismo” y tonterías afines se inventaron esas tonterías del movimiento levógiro u dextrógiro. El simbolismo “solar” corresponde a los pueblos australes, no a los creadores verdaderos de la Swastika, que procedemos del Hemisferio Norte.
Así que, no te enredes, la Swastika es un símbolo astronómico -polar para más referencia-, y el rollo nazi nada tiene que ver con eso. Ellos -los idiotas nazis-, usaron un símbolo que no les correspondía y hay que agregar a sus crímenes el haberlo ensuciado.
Un saludo afectuoso.
Von Neuhaus, Edelweisz Gruppe.
I don’t believe that both the clockwise and counter-clockwise spinning swastikas mean the same thing. There is a specific reason for example that the Nazis used the counter-clockwise spinning swastika and made sure that on there flags the swastika was never reversed on the opposite side. They did this by using thing fabric and basically sewing two flags together so that the bleed through did not show the clockwise spinning swastika. Any one who knows WWII history knows that the Nazis were Extremely heavy on Ideoligy. So there emphasis on making sure only the counter clockwise swastika was represented speaks volumes on how different its meaning was from the clockwise spinning swastika. From what I know the Nazis used the counter clockwise spinning swastika because it stood for Victory. This may be fact but there could also be another reason for having chosen this particular swastika.
What I have read only Once was that the positive swastika is the Clockwise spinning one and that it represents the Sun and nature or Natural or positive or Good energy. A true good luck charm. And that the Counter Clockwise spinning swastika represents the exact opposite. When u think about it this actually fits the stories about Hitler having been a member of the Occult.
So again and for the last time. Can anyone confirm with certainty or deny with certainty that the Clockwise spinning swastika is Good energy and the Counter Clockwise swastika means Bad Energy?????
God Bless
2012 nears.
SWASTIKA -fylfot
THE SWASTIKE IS A SANSKRIT WORD COMPOSED OF “SU” MEANING “GOOD” AND “ASTI” MEAINING “BEING” WITH THE SUFIX “KA” AND IS EQUIVALENT TO “IT IS WELL” OR “SO BE IT”. tHE SWASTIKA IS ONE OF THE MOST ANCIENT AND SACRED OF aRYAN SYMBOLS DATING BACK TO BEFORE 6,000 b.c.e. IT IS THE SIGN OF THE SUN,S STRENGHT, AS THE UNSTOPPABLE WHIRLING MIGHT OF WILL. THE ROUNDED VERSION VERSION IS KNOWN AS THE SUNWHEEL SWASTIKA. THE CLKOCKWISE MOTION REPRESENT THE CONSIUS SELF.
my grandfather was in the Luftwaffen. I may share his beliefs or i may not. it doesn’t matter. no matter what the connection to the symbol is, it only that. a symbol. people need to grow up and grow some balls. don’t let a simple little cross ruin your day.
About your doubt: the two swastikas are the same, the aparent movement around the Polar Star.
The Oldest religion don’t see differences on one and the oposite .
Youre
H.von Neuhaus
Which is the Positive swastika??
The Clockwise Spinning Swastika which represents the Sun and Natural??
or
The Counter Clockwise Swastika which means the opposite??
Anybody posting on this site please respond.
Thank you
Christianity is a religion made up of goulash of religions and it was introduced in Europe with a sword in hand.
The swastika means good luck and have during the centuries been used as such, unfortunately evil temporary concurred the Aryans in WWII and using their propaganda machinery to smear the swastika.
I think the swastika does not resemble evil as thatis saying these religons which use the swastika are evil and that is like people saying Christianity is evil and thatis not nice
Johnny 21 london
There is a widespread resentment in Japan (I’m from there btw) over the West’s usage of Swastika, known as “manji” in Japan.
Nintendo’s Pokemon had a buddhist-inspired character, but that was censored in the USA. The same happened to a cartoon “Kin’niku-man” OK, these are less big deals, but many Japanese families carry “family symbol”, and many of them contain manji, because it has been and still is the symbol of Buddhism in the same way cross is for Christianity and crescent is for Islam.
Japanese resentment probably wouldn’t have much effect, but what may happen is that China’s increasingly anti-west sentiment may pick on this issue and possibly India to follow.
Can Anyone Clear up what the Two forms of Swastikas actually mean though PLEASE.
Here is what ive read.
A positive swastika is one tha spins CLOCKWISE.
Clockwise meaning towards the Right with the extending lines flying left away from the clockwise spin.
The other example is the NAZI swastika which spins COUNTER CLOCKWISE. Meaning spinning towards the left with with extending lines extending right away from the counter clockwise spin.
The reason a clockwise swastika is considered POSITIVE is because its spinning with the NATURAL flow of NATURE. The SUN. Again NATURAL.
While they say a counter clockwise swastika is considered to mean VICTORY that tends to mean RESISTENCE or UN NATURAL. Against nature. To change the natural flow of things. While this of course sounds positive depending on your perspective it could also be considered as a Selfish act. To Combat the natural way of things for ones own personal gain at the cost of all of nature.
The actions of NAZIs are a clear indication that UN NATURAL acts were carried out but were planned from the begining.
Thats why im for Reclaiming the Swastika only because i think that we are still experiencing today alot of the negativity that the NAZIs spread through out the world.
BUT people have to be informed as to which Swastika is actually the POSITIVE swastika.
I SAY THAT THE CLOCK WISE SPINNING SWASTIKA IS THE POSITIVE ONE.
clockwise spins towards the right with the lines extending out towards the left away from the forward motion
THE COUNTER CLOCKWISE SPINNING SWASTIKA IS THE NEGATIVE ONE.
counter clockwise spins towards the left with the lines extending out towards the left away from the forward motion
PLEASE SOMEBODY CLARIFTY THIS FOR ME.
THANK YOU
GOD BLESS.
I totally agree with the idea of reclaiming the swastika, and re-educating people to the beautifull meaning of this symbol. I think it is something that will eventually inevitably happen, although without a lot of help, possibly not in my lifetime.
I have recently been doing some stencil grafitti of different swastika’s with positive phrases, so that the people who see tham might associate the symbol with that word next time they see one?
Any ideas of words, or places to paint them would be greatly appreciated!
Swastika for higher levels of being
I couldn’t agree more that people need to let go of how bigot’s and racists have misued tradintionally strong and meaningful symbols. By banning it and not talking about it and being offended when someone sees it, what message is being sent?! It’s to keep the negative thought alive, instead of being able to recognize the bigger picture of its history.
I like this site and found it while looking to educate myself a little more on the symbolism of different historically controversal flags….Thank you for the enlightenment!
One thing your forgetting on this website, minor really, is that the swastika also represents the Sun.
Good luck destroying the stereotype, it will be a long battle…
thats a nice symbol
but people dont like it
one day i went to school with a t-shirt that had a swastika on it and i became an anti-semit for the rest of the smester
The swastika/fylfot is also a symbol of Odinism/Asatru. Let it be reclaimed in the name of Odin.
i think that everyone should have their own beleif on what the symbol means. Weather or not that means the nazi way or the original way. i think nobody should try to take the symbol away from people who use it in a different way to show there belief because it isn’t their fault the Nazi’s chose to use this symbol for nazism like they did w/ many other symbols they technailly stole from other people to mean what the nazi wanted to mean.
isn’ t it just a sad fact of life, that another bunch of fat
political morons in europe wants to flex it’s political
and totalitarian muscle, to dictate their living terms to
all citizens. knowledge is power and they pass laws so that you can’ t have any. this is the process of all
political pigs, regardless of the symbol they use to
represent themselves.
Is it not true that a Clock wise spinning Swastika means the Sun and Life and Natural?
While a Counter Clockwise means the opposite??
Does this website have a secret agenda?
I thank you for what you are doing with this site. The only way that things are going to change is through education and you are doing a good job here. I stumbled upon your site while doing research for a school paper, and found many interesting facts and pictures. Thanks again and keep spreading the love!
Worth reading about Swastika.: The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism and Nazi Survival_ by Joscelyn Godwin is an interesting book about occult and pseudoscientific theories on polar shifts, the succession of ages, the Aryan race, the “hollow earth” theory, Nazi underground bases, lost cities, UFOs, mystical powers, theosophy, sex magick and a host of other obscure topics. The book begins with a discussion of the theory of polar shift, its relation to astrological, occult and Hindu calculations concerning the ages the earth has gone through. The actuality of the proverbial Golden Age might have some support if at some point in the past the earth’s axis was parallel to the sun and not veering at a tilt. The North Pole would have had a temperate climate, illuminated by the shining stars, moon, the aurora borealis and the light of the sun visible beyond the horizon-a place of eternal light, a theoretical location for the Garden of Eden. Arising from this polar theory is the notion of a primordial polar homeland for the human race. This leads into the bizarre theories of the origin of the Aryan race and the superiority of Indo-European culture and religion over that of the Mediterranean and Middle Eastern Semites. The Nazi believed that the Germans had a mystical homeland in a northern region known as Thule. The theories of the Nazis are examined, including Alfred Rosenburg and his official exposition of Nazi philosophy, _Myth of the Twentieth Century_. The Sicilian esotericist Julius Evola and his book _Revolt Against the Modern World_ also draws from the polar myth. He believed that an original Aryan race migrated from a polar Hyperborea, following a solar religion dominated by the warrior ethos and conquering spirit. According to Evola, the original religion of these Aryans has its elements sown in the myths of world in a variety of cultures. A more aberrant view of Nazi occultism comes from Miguel Serrano, a Chilean diplomat and author. His work _Hitler: El Ultimo Avataro_ describes a cosmic struggle between the Order of Nazis who are currently located in a hidden base in Antarctica against “the Demiurge”: Judaism, Christianity and Freemasonry. The deliverance of the Aryan race will come when Nazi flying saucers emanate from Antarctica and take over the world. Many theories have also circulated about a possible “hole at the pole” where adventurers could gain access to subterranean Utopias. Aghartha and Shambhala are two mythical cites in Central Asia whose existence has been either literally or figuratively believed in. The denizens of Aghartha stand for worldly power while Shambhala is the abode of mystical enlightenment. The place of Antarctica is examined in detail as well as the North Pole. While the North Pole has a pleasant reputation (surprisingly Santa’s house is not mentioned) as a cozy homeland, the South Pole has stood for the earth’s demons. In old legends, treachery, death and monsters have been associated with the South. In modern times this translates into Serrano’s secret Nazis in Antarctica plotting against humanity. The Pole figures to a great extent in the various theories of the origins of religion as well. In the period after the Renaissance, Reformation and Enlightenment, many different scholars attempted to develop a unified theory to explain the origins of the world’s religions. One theory was one of a universal solar worship. An example of this would be the Gospels written to describe the sun passing through the signs of the Zodiac throughout the year. Phallus worship was another theory, attributing religion to the awe primordial men felt toward the generative and fertile sources of nature. The polar theory is a combination of the two. The swastika also has its origins here. The positions of Ursa Minor taken together throughout the seasons of the year thousands of years ago would have looked liked a swastika when depicted on a chart showing the seasonal observations simultaneously. The mythical “Land of the Sun” in several ancient cultures and astrological setups also show a polar orientation. Godwin notes that King Arthur may be drawn from the polar/solar traditions as well. The “Spiritual Pole” chapter covers the metaphysical practices, including Yoga, which have used polar and axial ideas to stand as a metaphor for an ascent into enlightenment. The last third of _Arktos_ summarizes the theories of why the earth’s axis is at a tilt. The “catastrophists” believed that the pole shifted in sudden violent changes in ages past and was responsible for epochal calamities. The “uniformitarians” on the other hand postulated that the earth is continually shifting its polar locations, repeating in cycles. The scientific theories concerning polar shifts are examined, but Godwin draws no conclusions for or against the idea. Of course, most of the occult literature on the subject is totally at odds with objective science. The most outlandish theorist examined here is Cyrus Teed, AKA “Koresh” (no Waco connection). This mystic propagated the idea that we are actually living on the concave of earth’s inner shell. The stars, planets and the sun are reflections inside the earth itself. One aspect of Godwin’s book that makes it informative is his objectivity-and possibly even a subtle hint of approval–towards his subjects. Godwin concludes by making reference to the Kali Yuga, the Age of Iron that describes the modern world process of decay according to Hindu eschatology, in addition to the “end of the Age of Pisces.” Although Godwin does not take Pisces as referring to Christ, he makes his support clear toward the idea of the “earth reasserting its rights” with a polar shift–a massive global catastrophe–that will destroy the pretenses of humanity and inaugurate the next Golden Age
Swastika is very ancient and holy symbol of India.In Harappan cities which belongs to 3600bc Swastika was excavated.In many indian ancient rock inscriptions start with ‘Swasthisri’.Many civilizations considered it as a sign of Good luck.Such a symbol of antiquity is nothing to do with those who misused it..Those countries which banned it simply doing it because of keeping inside some kind prejudice on Swastika’s cultural and religious connections.That is the real truth.
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Hi Julia,
It’s a great idea to make t-shirts. Perhaps also a small ‘.com’ after the ‘Reclaim the Swastika’, so that people can find this community?
The font for the website is called Due Date. If you wanted to take the initiative, then we could add a link to buy t-shirts from the website.
If you want to discuss any of this off-list, please email mail at reclaimtheswastika.com.
Hey, I wrote a comment in March (I think) asking what us common folk could do to help reclaim the swastika. I suggested buying T-shirts with swastikas and quick-witted lines, but as you perhaps do not have the budget to do this, I was wondering if I would be permitted to make a T-shirt saying “Reclaim the Swastika”, perhaps even with your fonts and stuff? If you do not wish me to do so, or if you’re a trademark, then I will of course not.
However, if you are a trademark, you are most welcome to start producing these T-shirts. I know I’d buy one!
the swastika has been wrongfully corrupted and the EU should seriously reconsider using it. It’s true meaning has not been lost, just clouded in misery and hate. We need to right this wrong as soon as possible.
i agree
OMFG U GUYS AER NASIS!!1
But seriously, it’s refreshing to see that there are some out there who can see past the very temporally recent and geographically localized use of this beautiful and ancient symbol! The simple cross is just as old and widespread, but nobody recalls the horrors of the christian crusades when confronted with one.
The outrage directed at the swastika when used in a peaceful, proper context always seemed to me to be nothing more then a knee-jerk reaction by people too simple minded to do even the most cursory research. It seems being viewed as a racist is a much more taboo thing nowadays then inadvertently being seen naked!
if you discribe the phisical appearance of Mr.adolf heatler whitch is the leader of the organization of swastika, he look like a pinguin i dont know if thats true but it just base on my research.
The propoganda after the war has turned the History upside down.
There is a reason why we are discussing this today!
I think the swastika looks super cool. So did Rudyard Kippling (Jungle Book) as he had a tattoo of one, and then Hitler came along and ruined it all, even NAZI sounds cool, but Hitler ruined it all.
Don’t think it be reclaimed though.
H.von Neuhaus
Finest movment where the Jews gather all their forse to destroy their Arian aponants after declearing war on Germany in 1933.
Read the history and ask your self the question.
Why is history always repeating itself when it comews to the Jews.
Swastica as presented by the NS is a powerfukll symbol trying to be apressed byall ZOG organisations.
Lady Michiru Kaiou San.
Gomen nasai, baka ni tsukure wakari nasai…
Some idiots came to this honorable site pretending be “nazis”, they are really patetics. Like this guy Bernt… My apologize for they.
The fight of England agaist the barbarian… was a finest moment in human kind’s History.
We need to fight against the ignorance and give the SWASTIKA his real significance.
Yours from México.
Graff Herrman Von Neuhaus.
Mein Liebe Bernt… however was your name…
Tienes de “ario” lo que cualquier humano tiene de reptil. Tu idiotez es sólo comparable con tu nula capacidad intelectual… los nazis pasaron al basurero de la historia… y ahí se quedarán.
Nuestro interés consiste en rescatar un símbolo que unos tarados ensuciaron. Mira “ario” relee (si es que sabes leer) Mein Kampf y ve de donde sacó el idiota de tu “Führer” la idea… yo ya lo leí, en alemán, castellano e inglés, tengo dos de sus libracos… dedicados de puño y letra. Ustedes los “neo” nazis son patéticos.
Te pongo esto en español, idiot, para ver si en tu “superioridad” hablas más de un idioma.
Yo hablo seis…
Graff Hermann Von Neuhaus.
I totally agree that the Swastika should be rehabilitated.
For far too long, the ignorant people of the world have
continued to demonize this mystic holy symbol, but
what they fail to realise is that the Fuhrer (Hitler) stole
it to symbolize his twisted Weltanschaung
(world view), just as he stole everything else to build
up the NSDAP.
My mother survived the Blitz in London in 1940, so
I never experienced World War II or the Third Reich,
so instead I decided to research it, regardless of
other people’s opinions.
I know about the Holocaust, so I am not insensitive
to the plight of the Jews.
And if anyone needs a reminder, just take a trip to
Auschwitz, which stands as a permanent reminder of
the horrors of National Socialism.
(Nazi is shorthand for Nationalsozalistiche Deutscher
Arbeiter Partei).
The Raelist’s use a symbol that is a combination of the Swastika and Star of David.
After much controversy, they changed it, and in 2007 they changed it back.
It doesn’t say much that they are a UFO religious cult, but they know that it’s all about peace.
it is a symbol for many cultures and rases. i say that the jews should get over it . just like the rebel flag and the african americans. if they can get over the confederacy then jews can get over the nazis
well, F the jews! what about palestine? what are they going through? this is not a race thing! it’s about a symbol and what it means, it doesn’t means “kill jews!” for shore!!!! Israel wasn’t even a country 70 years ago!.. But this site it’s not about religions, it’s about a symbol that was interpretated the wrong way…
i think its nonesense do u ever think of jews and what they went through? no need to reclaim the swastika
The swastika’s misinterpretation is one of prejudice, in my opinion. The symbol was used to bless homes and families in the East for centuries. We shouldn’t be offended by it just because some maniac like Hitler abused it. I use a symbol that is based on the swastika and that doesn’t offend me (some of my relatives are Jewish).
@H.von Neuhaus - Cool. Well, you can post small images to this message board with a simple HTML image tag. For this, the image would have to be already present on the Web (e.g. on Flickr):
<img src="IMAGE_URL" alt="SHORT_DESCRIPTION" />
Or, if you just want to send them so we can see them, please email mail {at} reclaimtheswastika {dot} com
Thanks.
How can I send to you the pictures of the symbol used by the rescue team from ASUME 19?
I’m trully sure you don’t know the Atlante Swastika… tell me please.
The Asume 19 is a mountanering survival group who use the Edelweiß and the Swastika as symbols… we want to reivindicate the ancient symbols profanated by the nazis.
We think this is a very good place for doing.
Saludos afectuosos.
In fact I have the idea of writhing a book about the Swastika, but I need a editor… and we are making swastikas on metal and plastic here in Mexico… and finally, my group of mountanering use the atlante double swastika as his symbol with the inscription: Omnia Mecum Porto….
Thanks for the fight in pro of the understod of this beautifull symbol.
i applaud you for ding this- the symbol is of great power- it deeply sadens me that Hitler still controls the minds of innocent people who no not the power and great beaury of the symbol– i have thought many times to write a book or do something to promote the true essence of the symbol– well done- let meknow how i can b of any assistance…
blessings; larry ford
Is there anywhere that I can buy swastikas?
I would like to acquire swastikas.
Tim P.
The swastika is Buddist in nature
I think that the swastika should not be banned from use because if people are mature they will use the symbol right. Also kids use the symbol in school prodjects ,and are learnig how discrimarory the symbol is . So no the swastica shouldn’t be banned for certian reasons .,
The swastika destroyed Germany just as it gave birth to Israel by using the “most willing” in the final sacrifice.
It is more hypocritical to use the star for racism than to use the swastika cause you know, the swastika is force that drives, the star is pure peace, we do not drive it, it drives us
The “Star of David” is also known from all civil and or “civilized cultures” in the universe.
The Hexagram is found in the molecule and in the molecular structure of the universe on all levels.
The swastika is the heart, that which is life, and the star of David starts as small as a musterd seed and it’s body gows while the spirit can never stop growing.
Your connection to the swastika is sheer reality, but our connection the Hexagram is to that of divinity in ourselves, our univese, to the highest heavens.
The swastika is found in every culture on the planet.
All from the most primitive to the most advanced, by all intelegent biengs and enlightened beings in the universe the swastika is held and lived by becuase any society who knows how the univese works knows that from the galexy to black and white holes to the power of all things circular–cyclical.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/94803303@N00/
The swastika is a symbol of creation and power.
I was proud to wear my traditional Raelian symbol, with the 6 point star and swastika, to work as soon as I got it. I have the modified version tattooed on my arm. But the original version needs to be prevalent. Take the swastika back. People should see it as the ultimate disarming of neo-nazis.
Good idea Julia, many of us will like to use T.Shirts with the Swastika on his real concept…
I use my metal swastika always, even with my jude friends, they understand the real significance.
Go ahead with this as soon as possible!
I love the idea of reclaiming the swastika. I hate that the nazis used it for their sick purposes - I can’t have any Buddhist flag at home without people thinking I’m a nazi, that’s just not right.
Is there anything I, or the pleb, can do to support this reclamation? Some sort of petition? Buying t-shirts with quick-witted lines and swastikas on them?
Thanks ManWoman (your comment a while back)… I’ve change the link to the Save The Swastika page on your new site.
Thank you all for your continued contributions, folk.
Trueblue indigo - please do! And good luck with it. Let us know how it goes.
Chris Wharton - sorry that I missed your previous message. Sure, feel free to contact me (one of the site’s creators):
p {at} premasagar {dot} com
i am finishing a mansuscript which is aimed at the metaphysical audience. i will be propsing the new consciousness begin wearing the swasitka to reclaim it from the brutes who stole it. may i reference your site, possibly take info? while not the subject of the book itself, ia discussion of the history and symbology of the swastika will be included in the afterward of the book.
sat nam
true indigo
Is there anyway to speak to the organizers of this website?
Anyone?
Great site, good info. Indeed it is a shame that people only see swastika as a nazi symbol.
I totaly agree, it’s a graphic symbol like no other, older than the nazi history itself.
Let’s bring her again, let’s embrace the swastika and other cultures. Not reject them or forbid. Hasta!
I think its cool
We still have to be careful of how it is being used, though.
Anyone can take any symbol and turn it into anything they want. I can take a dollar sign and give me a month and it will be a symbol of hate. But just because it is America’s symbol of money, some b.s. website will want to take back “their” symbol. Why does it have to be a movement…
SWASTIKA…..SwAsTiKa…..Swastika……. PPL need to stop stressin ova da Swastika all the religons who use it know what it is and how that dumb son off a b***h Hitler disgraced it and used it wrongfully…so to my HINDUS, Buddhists, and Jains,,,,much luv dont let that @$$ let any 1 say anything bout our cultures……and it would be nice TO RECLAIM THE SWASTIKA….
Hello,
I am a graphic design student conducting a project on the Swastika. I was hoping I could pose some questions to the ‘Reclaim the Swastika’ organisers.
I would greatly appreciate any help.
Thank you
Hi. Why do you want to get it back? Where did it go? You can’t have lost it… Anyways it’s a symbol for pete’s sakes…
Its just a symbol, bring it back! Stop worrying about the past!
I feel that the Swastika will naturally reclaim its rightful place over the next few decades as Asia and especially India move to the centre stage of the world. The reality is that with economic strength comes the ability to influence cultural issues. The current guilt trip by the West over Hitler which demonises the Swastika is only sustainable while they have the economic upper hand.
it is a real shame that the nazis perverted this meaningful symbol. i say with utmost disappointment that in western eyes, this symbol will be tainted forever. i believe that buddhists, hindus, jains, and all people who identify with this symbol in a positive way will have to continue to remind ignorant people of its extremely GOOD origins. (and i’m so sorry about that…) the misuse of the swastika, the ultimate ancient symbol of goodness, is proof of hitler’s extreme hate.
LET US JOIN TOGETHER TO COMBAT THE WORLD’S HATRED THROUGH EDUCATION, LOVE, AND ACCEPTANCE.
Say i am a person from South Asia, Nepal. Hitler was totally screwed up his A$$ or was high when he choose this symbol and faced it against the mirror and turned it a little on the left. This symbol here in my country has been in use way before Hitler’s time which means Peace, love and its celebration. And the thing about Aryan, we are the real Aryan’s not the germans and Hitler wanted to create his people to be a supremebeing just like we are. That’s why he brain washed saying he was Aryan and used our symbol and misused it. I was in a correctional facility in the united states and i saw many skin heads with all the Nazi tattoos saying “white pride” on the back of their neck, it was really hillarious because if anyone of you skinheads read this then u ain’t no damm Aryan and u people don’t even know how the swastika is in its real Aryan form, Hitler really messed it up. I just wanna say that i am who i am and i don’t need to be german to be an Aryan, just go and read some history…………..
Well, the jews would happily dwell on it forever.Through it they can accumulate what is most important for the most of them in life - Power and control, represented in this case by money.Cultural reasons and the like mean nothing to them no matter what someone tells you or even more what one of them tells you, that’s why most people have never heard anything else about the swastika other than its coherence with the Nazis and everyone knows about that eh?
I indeed we should reclaim the swastika, in my religion it is a symbol dedicated to one of our gods.
Yes its sad what the germans did, but that is over 60 years ago and we cant dwell on it forever
The swastika is a very bad thing we don’t need it back
I just want to tell you that the swastika was used in most of europe during the bronzeage. In northern europe it was primary used as a solar symbol. I dont now the specifik mening of the symbol in the southern part of europe.
In skandinavia the symbol was mainly used as the reverse of the naziswastika. And it was a symbol of good luck no matter what the hindu tradition tells. As all solar symbols